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Internet Closing Percentage

Jared,

You're close to the really really big question. What good is an idea if it only helps 1 of the users and not the other? The challenge is not to build cool stuff, but to build solutions that are cool.

More as it comes...


Joe - I've struggled with getting everyone on board with the ideas. I've even had the team be apart of the decision making in implementing a process they all agree with and even then they still do not follow it completely nor believe in it.

I understand that not everyone will have the same passion and ambition and drive. That a lot of people work just to collect a check and put minimal effort in. I guess I struggle and need to learn how to either get people motivated and on board or when to let people go who won't put in the effort needed to be successful.
 
For those of you who have been posting your ratios, I am assuming it has been a mix of new & used vehicles? Or strictly new? Any of your dealerships sell your older trades as-is on the lot and get inquiries?

Also, how are you calculating closing ratios? Say a customer submitted a lead in May but then bought in August. For closing ratio purposes, are you counting it against August leads or May?

We are starting training with Elise and hope to increase our ratio :) We have pre-owned only, fixed pricing/no-negotiation. Calculating closing ratio by matching the sale to the month submitted (Lead submitted in May, sold in August, count it for May's closing ratio), the reason I did it this way is we changed our setup. Previously the sales staff were handling leads, in August we had 1 dedicated person handle the leads with the goal of appointment booking, would then be transferred over to the sales team. Looking at vehicles 2005 & newer for August we were at 5.73% closing ratio. Much lower than we would like to be at (but higher than when the sales team was handling them).
 
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Love these robust and deep conversations. Even if the original topic has been a bit derailed (@joe) - some great conversation happening.

@Joe - you always know how to take it to the next level my DR Brother.

Answering a few questions from above that I missed out on earlier, while offering a few more opinions / personal observations over the many years.

They say "speed is control". Does this mean that the faster you are to respond to the customers - the better off you are?

@Joe says to consider the time of the day - great suggestion.
I'll add to this - consider the lead source as well.

If someone is on YOUR virtual showroom and has filled out a form, looking for an answer, darn right speed is coming into play in this scenario. Forum Filled on my virtual real-estate / dealership website = a very fast email answering their question while also asking if it would be okay for me call them to explain in a bit more detail and/OR an offer to chat online if a call can not happen (include a direct link to chat in your email).

**We are Chat Friendly** <-- with the right people behind the chat wall :)

I'll almost always advocate asking for permission to call on the first email. A simple "would it be okay for me to call you...?" yields some substantial positive responses. BUT your email asking for the permission to call MUST adhere to my AIUA rule.

NOW - this is where I'll bite my lip a bit. Many times I'll still encourage the phone call right after sending the email asking for the "okay to call". What's the worse that could happen? If for any reason the customer answers your call with a bit of grunt, there are many word tracks that will allow you to overcome this situation, while turning it into a positive forward moving conversation / appointment. I've seen it over and over. It's rare you get someone that gets that irate when you called them. It's 2014 - we all have caller ID.

For the customers that don't answer - this is a great opportunity to send the customer some additional value build content within your next email correspondence. BONUS TIP: Send them a personal video introduction and recorded walkaround of the vehicle at interest.

URGENCY TO SERVE TRUMPS ALL (most of the time) - it won't win you ALL the opportunities but I can guarantee you'll have more than your average share. Do you're best to be something to everyone, but also realize (especially when starting off) that you need to start with a flexible enough process to build upon - if you find it necessary.

Do you need to always be the first? I say no. Studies say no. And again, I believe there are too many variables to have a 100% right or wrong answer for this.

Do you need to be fast? Hell yes - while providing the content and answers best suited for the customer.

Get you're process together and mapped out - ifttt. Heck - make it fun and visual with the https://ifttt.com/orbnext :rofl:
 
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To me a person should be able to handle 80-100 leads per month with proper follow-up. I understand what Jeff is saying about roll-over and how long term follow-up drops off but that can be corrected with a BDC who assists with that long term follow-up.

When I was working Internet Leads myself I had over an 80% connection ratio. Now with that ratio, I included people who would get back to me 2 weeks later to tell me they bought elsewhere because that was a connection.

Here's something I wrote a few years back:

[h=2]How many leads can an Internet Manager handle, effectively?[/h]
I responded to a post that raised this question. I was looking at some data, that dates back a few years. It is dated, and I would like to know what some of the DealerRefresh people think. It makes some assumptions, that many might feel are unrealistic but it addresses the growing workload of an ISM as he enters into the Internet department, with a low (80) lead count. Please challenge the assumptions as I really would like to see some input. In the past, I have based my staffing on this logic. We worked cradle to grave and all Internet phone calls coming to ISMs.

New ISM First Month
Assumptions:

  • 80 New Leads
  • 15% are Bad
  • 10% are Sold
If we make contact once every 3 days, this requires 22 phone calls per day with 25 working days. 61 Leads will carry over to the next month.

New ISM at Month #2
Assumptions:

  • 80 New Leads
  • 15% are Bad
  • 10% are Sold
  • 61 Carry Overs (25% Buy elsewhere, 5% Sold, 20% No Response)
If we make contact once every 3 days, this requires 43 calls per day with 25 working days.
95 leads will carry over to the next month.

New ISM at Month #3
Assumptions:

  • 80 New Leads
  • 15% are Bad
  • 10% are Sold
  • 95 Carry Overs (25% Buy elsewhere, 5% Sold, 20% No Response)
If we make contact once every 3 days, this requires 59 calls per day with 25 working days.
115 leads will carry over to the next month.
 
So I want to respond to all of you with my input so here goes!

@Sachin Raja - I calculate the Sold Percentage with raw data for that month. Knowing that leads can carry over and get sold in a different month than they came in, I do not adjust my reporting based on "did the lead come in last month or this month."

So I will take the 500 leads we received in August and count how many were sold. I take out the bad leads (Leads with 0 contact info and leads that were for a different department like Parts or Service) and then divide how many sold by how many leads I have remaining. I DO NOT alter leads so that phone ups who call in from a website ad get put into the system as an internet lead. I also DO NOT delete or remove leads that have had 0 response because I take it personal that I was not engaging enough to get someone to respond back to me.

All of this is based on ALL leads, not just new or used. Breaking down the information more to determine if we close higher on new vs. used or vice versa is very helpful, but for the sake of this post I will keep it generic. :)


@Jeff Kershner - Being first with QUALITY is most important. I don't want to see a 1 minute response time with a template email. I want to see a 3-5 minute response time with a quality email typed out and sent. Shortly after I would want to see another email sent with a video personalized to the customer with either the Product Specialist introducing themselves or the vehicle the customer had inquired on (or one that matches closely to it.)

In my opinion, always call first if there is a number then email, UNLESS the customer specifically requests "email only." As for chat, we have CarChat24 that handles our own website chat but are working on setting up chat on cars.com and autotrader for our BDC and ISM's.


@ddavis - Follow-up becomes less and less as the leads age. From David Kain's training we have a 2 week push and then Nurture Marketing after to help keep our name in front of the customer with less intrusive auto emails and occasional phone calls. For the leads that carry over from one month to the next (and sometimes further), there will be less pressure on the ISM / BDC to follow-up as consistently.

It takes about a week to go through an entire months leads. The next week I would hit the most recent stuff again (within past week) and then go to the previous month. Third week I would hit again the most recent stuff (within past week) and then hit two months back. Then on the next week I would hit all of my current month again and work on going back to the previous month once more.

Keep it on a rotation and constantly working to touch base with everyone. If I did not get a response from a customer, I would send them options on cars they did not inquire on just to see if they respond and to let them know of some specials we have. Why? Because you never know if their vehicle needs changed and they now need a 3 row SUV or Van instead of the sporty 2 door car.

BUT as a side note, 59 calls a day is easy for someone working the Internet. Even if I have 2 customers or even 3 in a day, I can still bust out 50-75 phone calls as I would normally be here for a 10 - 12 hour shift anyways. In between customers is when I make a handful of calls, send emails, do a video or two and then prepare for the next appointment.