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kcar,


I don't know if you are a REAL dealer or a vendor SHILL or just somebody that has fun on a Friday night by being a troll. You have done nothing but attempt to stir up threads and be confrontational behind an anonymous username. Unless you reached out to Joe privately, you didn't respond to a very well respected moderator's questioning of your motives so I have no expectation that you will reply to mine either, but c'mon man, surely you recognize that this kind of stuff doesn't better this community or this industry.


Come here with your opinion and be forthright with your identity and you will find this to be a great place to hangout, learn and discuss mission critical topics from the best and brightest in the industry. If you ARE a dealer you have NOTHING to fear. Most of the vendors will go out of their way to help you just for a chance to win your business. Only the agenda driven vendors need hide behind an anonymous username. That really hurts your credibility.


I'm not going to rehash this whole post to defend DealerRater or my personal position, read back a few pages and search the other recent posts and you'll see information on Google's definition of "impersonation" from their TOS and the WSJ articles that clearly explain that Google didn't remove third party content, it was removed FROM them by an impending Antitrust investigation.


If you ARE a real dealer you need to be challenged, to Jeff's point some of your opinions aren't helping you. Call me right now if you like, my cell phone is in my signature. I'm a real guy that really cares about seeing this forum continue to be the best in the industry. I hope you will consider raising the veil and truly joining the discussion, I think you'll be glad you did.