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Actually, I find this thread amusing.  Joe, Jeff, Alex (Where the hell is John?) could be viewed as "bullies" and all left successful stores to become vendors.  I know that I have tangled with all of them and them with each other.  All have strong opinions and not afraid to share them.  The car business is not for the faint of heart.  I think we all benefited from those exchanges.

I don't come on here very much. I still do some dealership work as long as it doesn't interfere with my fishing.