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ddavis, I see you always say that it's about how you market your cars on Autotrader. That it's all about the descriptions, etc. that makes you sucessful on ATC. I looked up Bell Lexus on Autotrader and nothing I see jumps out at me as great. It's nothing more (actually less) then the way we market our vehicles on ATC. I think the market helps to decide what works. What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander!!