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ddavis,  I see you always say that it's about how you market your cars on Autotrader.  That it's all about the descriptions, etc. that makes you sucessful on ATC.  I looked up Bell Lexus on Autotrader and nothing I see jumps out at me as great.  It's nothing more (actually less) then the way we market our vehicles on ATC.  I think the market helps to decide what works.  What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander!!