I still think you get what you pay for. Especially Clothes. However Carsforsale.com threw out that theory out the window for me. BEST bank for the buck as far as what Ive seen. Ive used ecarlist (love) but for 79.00 a month (sent them 2 referals) its worth it! from an independant perspective hands down... a no brainer .. never did try V12 , although its clearly a play on carlist.