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Alex Snyder

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Do you know what your dealership website is saying to customers? If you have a finance calculator you are telling customers the wrong thing! You are creating another channel of friction for your customer.

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TLDR: turn off the finance calculator on your website.​

Most finance calculators that come with Dealer.com, DealerOn, Dealer Inspire, Sincro, etc website solutions are free forms that allow the customer to input whatever she wishes.

Price​

Letting your customers set their own price is dangerous. How many customers actually enter the selling price you have listed?

Only the dumb ones.

Smart customers are going to set a price way lower than you’d like because that’s where they plan to start negotiating.

How many customers set a price with taxes? What about your fees?

Nobody knows how to calculate taxes and fees. What about trade equity? What about rebates?

Interest Rate​

Do I really need to explain the futility of pushing your customer offsite to their own bank to find their best rate?

Loan Term​

This is where customers can quickly knock themselves out of the market on your car. Old adages like “never finance for more than 48 months” still exist. Grandpa is still giving advice.

Where are the leases!!!

This is my biggest peeve with finance calculators. They can’t calculate a lease to offset that big payment the customer just saw on a loan.

And what about used car leases?

As I write this new car supply shortages are abundant and maybe on the cusp of getting worse. We’re missing chips and may soon be missing the metals required to build the cars. This means we are going to be selling more used cars and as market values continue to inflate, people are going to need to lease used cars to afford them.

Digital Retailing competition​

If you have a digital retailing solution, your finance calculator is definitely at odds with the other finance calculator inside your digital retailing solution. One calculator should rule the website! Choose one.

The legacy finance calculator that came with your website is probably not on any website company’s product roadmap for improvement. They have mostly been the same since the first dealership website payment calculator was launched over 20 years ago. Don’t feel bad about requesting your website company to remove it – I doubt they will find offense.
 
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You WIN!! Over 10 years ago I tried to run find out what the engagement was like on our basic payment calculator. If f the reporting was correct, it was very little. Ten years later, I doubt I would see any difference.

I would absolutely agree - if you have any DR solution on your website, it would be a great idea to remove the basic calculator feature.
 
Where are the leases!!!
@alex, (sorry to change topics) - you mentioned leasing on a recent Refresh Friday too. Why don't we see more creative leasing offers? Leasing is a great/better option for many and not as bad as it used to be. Dealers get the service, a guaranteed customer at the end of the term (sooner if you know what you're doing) and one less car you have to buy at action. I have a friend at a Lexus dealer whose client list is almost 100% leases. Easy business, long-term and trusted relationships, service revenues, +++
 
You WIN!! Over 10 years ago I tried to run find out what the engagement was like on our basic payment calculator. If f the reporting was correct, it was very little. Ten years later, I doubt I would see any difference.

I would absolutely agree - if you have any DR solution on your website, it would be a great idea to remove the basic calculator feature.
Here's the average completion rate that we see. About 14% of users who view a VDP complete the payment calculation. My presumption is that some people like to tinker around with something that doesn't ask for their name/phone/email. The payment calculator is one of the only tools on most dealer sites that isn't gated by a form.
 
You WIN!! Over 10 years ago I tried to run find out what the engagement was like on our basic payment calculator. If f the reporting was correct, it was very little. Ten years later, I doubt I would see any difference.

I would absolutely agree - if you have any DR solution on your website, it would be a great idea to remove the basic calculator feature.
 
Where are the leases!!!
@alex, (sorry to change topics) - you mentioned leasing on a recent Refresh Friday too. Why don't we see more creative leasing offers? Leasing is a great/better option for many and not as bad as it used to be. Dealers get the service, a guaranteed customer at the end of the term (sooner if you know what you're doing) and one less car you have to buy at action. I have a friend at a Lexus dealer whose client list is almost 100% leases. Easy business, long-term and trusted relationships, service revenues, +++
 
You WIN!! Over 10 years ago I tried to run find out what the engagement was like on our basic payment calculator. If f the reporting was correct, it was very little. Ten years later, I doubt I would see any difference.

I would absolutely agree - if you have any DR solution on your website, it would be a great idea to remove the basic calculator feature.
Here's the average completion rate that we see. About 14% of users who view a VDP complete the payment calculation. My presumption is that some people like to tinker around with something that doesn't ask for their name/phone/email. The payment calculator is one of the only tools on most dealer sites that isn't gated by a form.
 

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Alex Snyder argues that dealer website finance calculators should be removed because they allow customers to enter unrealistic prices and terms, creating false payment expectations and friction before the sale. A key counterpoint emerges from data showing that roughly 14-17% of VDP visitors actually complete a payment calculation — notable partly because the calculator is one of the few ungated tools on dealer sites, meaning customers use it precisely to explore without surrendering contact information. The thread leaves the tension unresolved: high engagement suggests real customer demand, but the tool's open inputs may still set dealers up for difficult conversations.

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