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Huge results with VL Automotive Marketing

(note: this thread is morphing into an open discussion of doing a performance analysis)

Craig, your conclusion of "stupendous results" came from turning on a PPC campaign that should have been there before. This conclusion also assumes that if any dealer that is not advertising with PPC can expect significant results just by turning it on.

Sorry, I disagree with this. Please clarify.

Agreed. The conclusion is very open-ended at this point and I didn't mean for that to be my all-inclusive conclusion on the matter.
Rather, my point was that when it comes to SEO and SEM, I firmly believe that if someone is doing nothing, the changes that can be made by simply doing "something" are fairly drastic. That something has to be done correctly and implemented with a degree of intelligence, but I don't think it's fair to say that we accomplished something amazing just because we got results from our work.. I'd like to have 100 clients with a cookie-cutter process that can be replicated before I claim I'm "successful".

For what it's worth, in the case of this store we ended up doing a fairly integrated AdWords campaign:
1. We exported from the database a list of all vehicles in different formats (ie: YEAR MAKE MODEL TRIM, YEAR MAKE MODEL, MAKE MODEL TRIM, etc) and we imported this excel into AdWords and assigned a small dollar amount to it while pushing all traffic from those ads to a URL that shows them the MAKE and MODEL they clicked an ad for.

2. We created a very tight geographical radius for the campaign and tried to target strictly the customers that were shopping outside of their own "home area". This was interesting and we are still working on improvements to it to this day, but trying to target customers who live in one place, but work in the big city nearby is an interesting process and it seems to be yielding good results as far as these customers being fairly targeted.

For a $1000/month campaign it has more sub-groups than any other campaign we've run before and it's been a great learning experience.
 
The fact that this thread exists doesn't surprise me at all.

Why wouldn't be?

I always thought that DR was the perfect place to learn about all products.

The thread started with one product and now we have Pistell's knowledge providing insight on how to doubt performance metrics and to look beyond the numbers vendors give us. That is critical thinking at its best.

On top of that Manny is a cool sport and rather than coming guns blazing defending his stuff he is just chilling in the conversation.

I hope that we have more threads like this that provide analysis and product discovery to many dealers that read the forums. If anything I wish I had the insight to provide an an opinion on many of these. For now, I'm reading and leaning.
 
On top of that Manny is a cool sport and rather than coming guns blazing defending his stuff he is just chilling in the conversation.

Agreed. This part was much appreciated.
These conversations are key to everyone learning and moving forward with their own campaigns, help, etc.
As a provider, I am often encouraged to write whitepapers or do presentations on the results we get. For me, I simply don't have the time for that at this stage and these forums are a great place to hash out ideas and compare results without having to write an exposé on the subject.
 
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This thread is a great example of what makes DR such a great resource. We all have ideas and fight like cats to defend them. DR's hundreds of stealth readers get to weigh every player's take, mix them into their own experiences and arrive at their own conclusion.

TY Jeff Kerschner for the spirit and attitude that made DR's hard hitting, anti-spin culture happen.
 
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Also, "actual sales results" are impacted by external forces:

Your Competition
-in-franchise,
-cross-franchise,


Looking deeper into "your battle field of competition", consider:
Your products vs cross-franchise Competition
OEM incentives & Ad spending
-in-franchise,
-cross-franchise,
Your dealer's inventory profile,
Your dealer's inventory profile vs its competition,
-in-franchise,
-cross-franchise,
Your dealer's traditional ad spending history,
Your dealer's competition ad spending history,
etc...