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@Alex Snyder, @ryan.leslie ... what did the salesman do wrong?
I'm assuming the delivery was lighthearted. If so, the only thing that salesman could do wrong in that situation is fail to open the door for the next person.

I think most would be grateful for the pleasantries and amused by the unexpected forthrightness. One man's opinion, but opening a door, making eye contact, shaking a hand, and introducing yourself by name should be a bare minimum decorum expectation. Those are all good things.

Delivery is everything on his next line, but I think most people in this situation would appreciate his effort and simply say "just here for an oil change." Personally, I like it if it's delivered with a wry smile. That would be memorable and make me laugh on my way to the Service department.

You know yourself. If you have the personality to pull this, or similar pattern breaking off, I think it sets you apart and makes the hard part a little easier.

I agree with Alex. It's always good to address the customer's perceived needs first and provide a choice. The best pitch is never a pitch, it is a conversation.
 
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Hello to you,

I am a salesperson who has struggled finding qualified leads. Today I am reliant upon foot traffic, phone calls and internet leads.

We have a good inventory of hundreds of vehicles. Few people use the CRM, almost none as much as I do. I have some flexibility to "market" vehicles on the internet but have no marketing budget.

We use Eleads as our CRM. I am trying to mine our CRM for old customers who are not attached to a current salesperson.

Two questions to start:
What do you recommend I do to generate qualified leads?
Is there any service that will find me buyers who will take a cut of the deal if I can close them?

Thank you
Good Morning,

I believe there are areas where more effort can / should be focused in a dealership to increase your monthly sales:

1. I will start by saying relying on the front door is probably the least effective in setting yourself up to sell a car on any given day. I am not suggesting ignoring customers walking in, everyone of them deserve a "million dollar greeting" but chances are a majority have already engaged with the dealership online somewhere prior to visiting but we all play a part in ensuring their online experience continues to the showroom experience.

2. Inventory to sell is a huge plus and having a CRM is gold if used correctly, I always say when it comes to a CRM system, if you put garbage in, you'll always get garbage out. Managing your CRM database effectively is a forum discussion in itself but kudos to you for believing in it and using it daily.

3. I believe there is so much potential every single day sitting in your service department. Many of those customers have already done business with the dealership, perceived they got a good deal and liked their experience or they wouldn't be back there for service in my opinion. If you don't have a system to show you the next day service appointments, I would get with your management and make it known you would like to work the service department in the mornings and if you had the opportunity to reach out to them the day before it could increase your chances of selling a car the next day. Obviously not every customer will be in a position to trade but your managers can help highlight some that could be a good position as well as some talk tracks to use with those customers.

4. I don't feel as a salesperson you need to pay anyone to send you clients, dealerships pay enough for marketing to the store and have BDC's / Internet Departments to generate the showroom traffic from those sources. How do those customers get distributed to the sales floor in your dealership?

5. I'm sure you know a good amount of people and those people know just as many, use your social media to post a daily video walkaround on a specific new or pre-owned video you feel comfortable talking about, keep it short, 60 to 90 seconds max and share it with a call to action for questions or interest in other vehicles. Use those responses to work and ultimately set appointments with. Keep it consistent, daily, the traction will start to take and you will get buyers.

These are just a few of my thoughts for you and my biggest advice is to not overthink it, keep things simple, people by cars from people and only very few salespeople stay consistent with any effort the put forth. I hope this helps you some.

Best,

Chris Costner
 
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Okay if you want my actual response, service departments at car dealerships cause me zero anxiety. I'm there for a very low-stakes transaction. Here's my car. Change oil please. Here's $70 or whatever. I wanna get on my laptop, play poker, do whatever while my car's being worked on.

In contrast, I hate car dealership sales departments. I get anxiety just thinking about them. The sleazy car salesmen trying to lube you up. Ugh. I want *nothing* to do with them. When that dude approached me and told me about who he was, I felt like he was basically a timeshare salesman. I wanted to get rid of him ASAP.

Also, why would I be a good candidate to target for a sale if I'm literally about to invest money in prolonging my ownership of my current car? There's smoething very incongruent about getting pitched a sale when I'm there to invest in my car.

@Alex Snyder, @ryan.leslie ... what did the salesman do wrong?
 
Okay if you want my actual response, service departments at car dealerships cause me zero anxiety. I'm there for a very low-stakes transaction. Here's my car. Change oil please. Here's $70 or whatever. I wanna get on my laptop, play poker, do whatever while my car's being worked on.

In contrast, I hate car dealership sales departments. I get anxiety just thinking about them. The sleazy car salesmen trying to lube you up. Ugh. I want *nothing* to do with them. When that dude approached me and told me about who he was, I felt like he was basically a timeshare salesman. I wanted to get rid of him ASAP.

Also, why would I be a good candidate to target for a sale if I'm literally about to invest money in prolonging my ownership of my current car? There's smoething very incongruent about getting pitched a sale when I'm there to invest in my car.
First off, I would be very interested in knowing what company you Manage and what that company offers for products.

"In contrast, I hate car dealership sales departments". You do realize that you are in a Forum that primarily focuses on the process of selling cars? I assume that your employer/company does something similar?

"Why would I be a good candidate to target for a sale....". The very fact that you included that in your reply has me scratching my head. Do you REALLY not know why you are a good candidate? Please tell me you are playing devil's advocate.
 
From a consumer needs standpoint he is not a candidate, because there are no needs or wants to be taken care of.

From my experience previously working in service, customers who have an expensive repair out of warranty are usually approached by the GM and given a solution of trading their car for a new one. As a solution to their needs of having reliable transportation.

Many customers have been put in new cars this way, while used cars takes in the car, service recons it and it goes on the front line.

Happy customer, labor hours for service, parts gross and inventory for the used car department. Or if the cars a dud, they wholesale it.
 
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First off, I would be very interested in knowing what company you Manage and what that company offers for products.

"In contrast, I hate car dealership sales departments". You do realize that you are in a Forum that primarily focuses on the process of selling cars? I assume that your employer/company does something similar?

"Why would I be a good candidate to target for a sale....". The very fact that you included that in your reply has me scratching my head. Do you REALLY not know why you are a good candidate? Please tell me you are playing devil's advocate.
I'm a private investor. I manage investments for a living. I was here to ask questions about CarGurus because I'm considering investing in that company.

As someone who is literally there to extend the ownership of my vehicle and invest cash into its maintenance, I am *not* primed to do the literal opposite, i.e., unload my car. If I'm thinking of unloading my car onto someone else, the last thing I'm doing is investing in its medium-term well being. I am telling you, as a customer who was in the service department, that I found it somewhat confusing to be solicited by a salesperson. I was there to maintain my vehicle, i.e., extend its life and buy *more* time with it, i.e., the literal opposite of selling it. Sorry if the feedback and perspective of someone who doesn't sell cars for a living and is an actual customer makes you this triggered. Maybe sit down and catch a breath dude.

Normal civilians *hate* car dealerships, being in them, talking to anyone in them, associating with them in any way. Car dealerships are not pleasant environments to be in. Used car salespeople are manipulative scum. You don't wanna be anywhere near one. If you were to name two types of people that normal civilians would least want to spend two minutes of their time with, the first would be a used car salesman and a close second would be a lawyer perhaps. I'm sorry. This is just the truth.
 
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2 things:

  1. You need to provide value to prospective customers
  2. You need to automate as much as possible
How do you do it?

  • Templates: Depending on your permissions in Elead, you might be able to do email blasts, but even if you can't - you can email pre-written emails.
  • Videos: already mentioned, but you record a video once, and you can email it thousands of times, and it will be online, working for you while you sleep.
  • How to provide value? Make helpful content. Tutorial videos, walk-arounds and test-drives, comparisons, demos of specific features. Here is my personal channel for example: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC7GCW8joAdzaNEgd5-fG_A
  • My tutorial on making videos:
    View: https://youtu.be/ittbuKt-uDw
  • Other than videos: an easy email template to send out would be 5 cars that are scheduled to go to an auction. Update it weekly, get the info from your used car manager.
 
I'm a private investor. I manage investments for a living. I was here to ask questions about CarGurus because I'm considering investing in that company.

As someone who is literally there to extend the ownership of my vehicle and invest cash into its maintenance, I am *not* primed to do the literal opposite, i.e., unload my car. If I'm thinking of unloading my car onto someone else, the last thing I'm doing is investing in its medium-term well being. I am telling you, as a customer who was in the service department, that I found it somewhat confusing to be solicited by a salesperson. I was there to maintain my vehicle, i.e., extend its life and buy *more* time with it, i.e., the literal opposite of selling it. Sorry if the feedback and perspective of someone who doesn't sell cars for a living and is an actual customer makes you this triggered. Maybe sit down and catch a breath dude.

Normal civilians *hate* car dealerships, being in them, talking to anyone in them, associating with them in any way. Car dealerships are not pleasant environments to be in. Used car salespeople are manipulative scum. You don't wanna be anywhere near one. If you were to name two types of people that normal civilians would least want to spend two minutes of their time with, the first would be a used car salesman and a close second would be a lawyer perhaps. I'm sorry. This is just the truth.
There is nothing in my reply that indicates anything close to me being "triggered". Your post was simply confusing to me. Now I know why, because you know nothing about the Retail Automotive Industry. I get it now.

The likelihood of a consumer purchasing a vehicle at the facility that services their vehicle is exponentially higher than that same consumer purchasing from a facility that does not service their vehicle. That is the reason that dealerships keep their service area staffed with sales personnel. A lot of vehicles are sold on the service drive. I understand that you didn't like it. Most people aren't triggered by it.

Car salespeople and lawyers don't make my top 10 of people I least like to spend time with. Morticians, Cancer Doctors, Life Insurance Claims Agents, Neuro Surgeons, those are the type of people that I don't want to spend time with. I guess it's just different perspectives for all of us.

Do you have any specific questions about Car Gurus? I have been a customer of theirs for almost 8 years. Perhaps I could help!
 
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I really appreciate all of you for your contributions. One of the challenges I have is this:

@chriscostner
>I don't feel as a salesperson you need to pay anyone to send you clients, dealerships pay
>enough for marketing to the store and have BDC's / Internet Departments to generate the
>showroom traffic from those sources. How do those customers get distributed to the sales
>floor in your dealership?

We have no rules.
Whoever gets to the phone first gets the phone up.
Whoever the Internet Manager likes best gets the internet lead.
Whoever gets the showroom up first gets the showroom lead.

So I am seeking other approaches such as trying to automate sending emails through the CRM (I had template access for a few weeks but a salesmanger thought I had to much power so he bumped me back down to no template access).

@Mico Silver
>You need to automate as much as possible

Today I am seeking a script to help me post to facebook marketplace, playing with python code on my day off.

Are there any prospectors who would send me qualified leads for a cut of the deal?
 
Yes, I asked the service manager for help finding leads but he took the position that if he refers customers to the sales department that his repair income would decrease. On occassion people wander from service, or parts, into the showroom.

As I think about how to mine the CRM I believe I understand that the best prospects are people who have bought from us before and who service their vehicles with us. What strategies should I employ to develop leads from the service department?
A good dealership would have an equity mining tool, like Automotive Mastermind. Toyota has one from the brand - Signal. Without this software, it is difficult to "mine" qualified leads. Here is what you CAN do:

Ask service writers to let you know when there is a big bill estimate, appraise the customer's car as a trade and make them an offer to buy the car. If they sell it - they need another car.
Another thing that I used to do: show up early at the service department (around 8 AM), take a new demo, and give people rides from service. Show off the new car, chat with them, give them your card. This is a long con, don't expect things to happen right away, but it's better than doing nothing.
Ask your managers for orphan clients, and just call them to follow up on their car: "Hi, do you still have it? How is everything going with the car?", etc.

For more sales advice, I have a whole YouTube channel:
View: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVLjreHO7381rUO0JEJNfi0Ve2kHKoKcj&si=xT9KCAcl98SijmlJ
 


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