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Integration? What's that and what do I do with it? What about my DMS?

Alex Snyder

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Integration as defined on Dictionary.com:  an act or instance of combining into an integral whole. Okay...that doesn't really help.  How about Wikipedia?  Awesome - they have an entry for "System Integration":  is the bringing together of the component subsystems into one system and ensuring that the subsystem function together as a system. There's a lot more here.

That's the web-technical definition, but why the hell am I writing about it?  Jeff and I get on the phone when one of us is taking a long drive because we have longer phone calls than most friggin' women do!  Yesterday evening Jeff was on the road and we had a few things to discuss about DealerRefresh.  After we got some house keeping out of the way, we started discussing the various things we've been tackling at work lately - no bosses - we're not sharing information (for those of you who don't know, Jeff and I actually have some competing stores).  We were discussing the different problems we have in diagnosing inventory issues and somehow that led to the integration topic.  After debating over who is currently dealing with more BS around getting systems to cooperate, I ended up volunteering to write this article (is that what happens when you deal with a ton of BS?).  Anyway, that's how we got here.

I'm sure Jeff and I aren't the only people who have to pop aspirins on a daily basis because systems don't "integrate", but we are wondering why vendors toss the "integration" word around like it is a free Ferrari.  Up until yesterday evening I believed integration to be something along the lines of Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Word where everything is virtually seamless and there are rarely conflictions.  Not like Insert DMS Name here and Any Vendor Name here.  After reading some definitions of the word "integration" I'm starting to realize that integration can simply mean that two systems work together.  Technically our vendors do this through feeds and the word "integration" (at least I assume) is used because it sounds better in a sales pitch.  So if you input your inventory into ADP and HomeNet pulls it out, sugar coats it, then sends it to the web you could actually call that an integration between ADP and HomeNet where ADP would be the subsystem of HomeNet in the situation where your goal is to get inventory on the web.

What to talk to your vendor about when they do throw out the word "Integration"?

If you've read this far, I'm sorry, I definitely put a lot of worthless junk together in 3 paragraphs that could have been said in 3 sentences, so let's get to something valuable:

Two things first:

  1. I am just someone who has always been on the dealership side of things - I am no expert on coding a data feed.  I haven't read a book or attended any classes on it.
  2. Working out a data feed is extremely frustrating and doesn't happen just by pushing a button.

If a vendor tells you he integrates with so-and-so, your first question should be:  How? Is it done by pushing CSV files to a FTP server that happens every couple of hours or do you have straight access to push data in real time to the other vendor's system?  So the first question is How? and the second question is How often?

If you're talking to a vendor who says they can push/pull with your DMS (ADP, Arkona, Reynolds & Reynolds) then that sparks a few more questions on the How?

  1. Have you paid your DMS dues and have actual certification to push/pull directly with them? - most of the time this is going to be a No...I'll explain and criticize this in a later posting.
  2. Are you installing something on my network that accesses our DMS?  Technically this would be a hack.

  • If you're installing something on my network, then I need to know if you're exploiting a hole in my DMS that could be closed any day.  That isn't a big deal to me, but what is your contingency plan if that hole is patched?
  • If you're installing something on my network to access the network just like a regular user, then great!  Unfortunately, in today's DMS world, this is the best way for a vendor to gain access if they haven't been through certification.

I'm sure at this point in the article, I have ticked off all the DMS companies...and I will address that in another article later.

Some new types of "integrations" have been happening in these recent years.  Used car pricing tools have the ability to push the pricing of a vehicle to an inventory aggregator such as HomeNet, VINSolutions, your CRM or even your web site host.  This type of data feed is done a little differently because it typically is done on a car by car basis instead of just sending a CSV file full of changes to a FTP server.  This, to me, seems to be the cleanest and closest thing to what I would consider "integration".  I have been watching this happen between vAuto and HomeNet for a while and it is almost real time with delays being as long as 30 minutes (no big deal).  Soon I will be watching this same type of integration between another set of vendors and am very excited.  I hope this data sharing between the more proactive vendors will lead to a new type of "integration" for the industry.

Sharing of dealership data is a must in this digital age.  We either need our vendors to speak to one another or a single system that can do it all...and do it all well (so don't get anymore plans to try that again big DMS guy).  I believe "integration" should be a "standard" option on all models, but it seems to only be coming with the faster and more luxurious European cars (Dealer.com, vAuto, iMagicLab).  As the Big 3 (ADP, Arkona, and Rey Rey) keep trying to be the old guard they're just slowing the progress of the industry.  I believe the day is coming where a DMS is just going to be a vault of information that nobody actually works out of, and other vendors will provide the user interface.  This will all be done through data feeds...or "integration".
Please leave your comments and suggestions.  Because I am far from an expert on data feeds and "integration" I will add your suggestions to this article.

In this article, I am making the assumption that your legal team has approved all your contracts and security clauses on sharing data.
 
Arkona is by far the best DMS company to do integrations with. Their integrations are low cost and extremely powerful.

ADP & Reynolds simply look at DMS integrations as a way to make a profit.

Auto/Mate, AutoSoft are pretty easy to work with and don't charge much for integration fees either.

UCS is horrible to integrate with. I know a dealer with a 20 year UCS contract. They would probably be better off putting UCS on the shelf and paying a couple grand a month (or whatever) for Arkona, AutoSoft or Auto/mate.

But Arkona is leading the way with their OpenTrack platform.
 
i am a coder and i'm not sure what you mean by certification. perhaps you mean that the vendor approves that someone else is taking the data from their app.

most of the time when we get requests to import data from another system to help a dealer start using our software, the other program is such a mess that it's not worth our time to make some other company's crappy database structure our own problem.
 
A Vendor - I don't know know a whole lot about Arkona, but have heard they are easy to get along with for "integrations". I hear they don't have everything together in other areas though.

salzano - there is a certification process (and usually a big sum of money) a vendor has to go through to have a "non-hostile" push and pull of information with some of the DMS companies. However, this certification process seems to change often enough to not make it worth anyone's time, and has not been spoken about (to me at least) in a while.
 
@alex The good thing about Arkona though is because their system has such strong integration you can bolt on additional pieces of software in areas you think it is lacking. They have a built-in CRM, but it isn't "best of breed". But unlike some other DMS providers, they recognize that and want other providers to integrate to their platform to overcome those potential short comings.
 
Wow Matt - that's awesome! That is really cool. I will have to look a little harder at Arkona. Aside from just bolting on outside vendors, it needs to do a bit more than that. I remember we passed on it the last time our DMS contract came up, but that was a few years ago.
 
Being a tech guy, I really liked this post on the nuts and bolts of integration.

Here's an integration that would be a boon to dealers everywhere: How about display management companies integrating their (your) Pre-owned vehicle feed with an RSS feed?

If this were in place, any visitor to your website could search for a make/model and then grab an RSS feed so they can know when any cars that match that criteria show up on your lot?

We've spoken to the tech teams at both DealerFusion and DealerSpecialties about this over the past year. Each tells us it's on the way but we have yet to see it happen.

RSS feeds are everywhere - this in an integration I'd like to see.
 
Alex,
Nice to see we're not the only ones with integration frustration. I recently bashed our website provider about some problems that arise from integration. The more technology you use the more important this becomes. When we don't clarify these answers or fail to ask the correct questions we have only ourselves to blame. This is however something that salespeople will oversell for their companies and apparently not an easy thing to deliver on.

Roland, I love the idea off an RSS feed and see this as a huge plus for the consumer. Ease of business and a great customer experience should be the goal and I agree this would help achieve that.
 
Alex,
By opening your DMS database doors to multiple "uncertified" vendors to integrate directly with it, there is a huge potential of creating data security issues. Your database that includes SS#'s, Names, and Addresses will only be as secure as its weakest link. Also, when a 3rd party is involved and an issue arises it will create lots of finger pointing which just ends up hurting the dealer in the long run.
 

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The thread tackles the challenge of system integration in automotive dealerships, focusing on how DMS providers, third-party vendors, and dealers struggle to share data securely and consistently. Key contributors highlight the lack of standardized data formats for vehicle inventory, the security risks of unchecked DMS access, and the legal exposure dealers face when signing vendor integration agreements without scrutiny. The overarching conclusion is that the industry urgently needs both data standards and stronger security protocols before integration can truly function as intended.

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