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Kevin Frye's Annual Digital Dealer Conference Review

Great job, I have created a condensed version of the Evolution of Dance that was performed by Judson Laipply at the 8th Digital Dealer, YouTube's most viral video of all time and a Ford Fiesta Chapter 1 agent. I'm working on getting a hi-res version of the video, as soon as I do it will replace this one and update, so feel free to embed and use it as you wish... Some really great points on how social media is going to change the automotive industry.

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Cheers,

Adam Boalt

Kevin Frye's Annual Digital Dealer Conference Review

Thanks for the recap Kevin. Nice work! I especially like the part at the end on focusing on the fundamentals. I'm a strong believer twenty ten will find a lot of people revisiting their efforts @home and perfecting their foundation (Dealer Website & Lead Management Processes) before chasing this months new new thing. Dealers as a whole are more engaged than ever before which is key to helping really move this thing forward at an industry level.

Kevin Frye's Annual Digital Dealer Conference Review

Kevin

Great summary and thank you for attending my seminar. There was a great buzz at the show for people who came to learn and see the many new "toys" in the exhibit hall. The 9th Digital Dealer Conference will be in Vegas so you'll need to train extra hard with all the additional distractions in Sin City.

Kevin Frye's Annual Digital Dealer Conference Review



Isn’t she ‘tweet? It’s that time again – the semi-annual Digital Dealer conference, and of course the infamous review care of DealerRefresh. Jeff Kershner was unable to attend, I think he was attending the Cannes Film Festival or receiving the Nobel Prize for Automotive Excellence or something, so that leaves the flunkies like myself and Alex Jefferson with The Proctor Dealerships to pick up the slack…

So what kind of healthy food do automotive professionals eat? For the first official meeting of the “Automotive Industry Knights of the Round Table”, we chose to meet at the Rosen Shingle resort, which coincidentally was also the location for the 8th Digital Dealer Conference held in Orlando, Florida. Ok, so the table was not round, and most of these guys are not Knights, or even someone I might want to even run into at night, but great fun was had by all as we gathered together to share what is working well for each of us in this rapid-paced market, as well as looking for new ideas for where things are going.


Is it legal to give away alcohol? I am not sure, but Joe Webb (President of DealerKnows Consulting) sure knows how to encourage audience participation, and his session “It’s the Lead to Appointment Show” was a great example of how to do well with your presentation. Joe did a great job using game show analogies to teach his points, and getting folks involved. What was his secret? When he first asked for a volunteer, he had one hand go up. After the participant finished, Joe awarded him a bottle of wine. When Joe asked for the next volunteer, 40 hands shot up! Audience input, humor, video clips, and outstanding material make for a superior session, great job Joe!


If you know the name and address of the guy who runs Google Maps, please let me know… I and many others would like to see this fellow get “beat up from the feet up” as Google Maps can be a colossal nightmare to manage, especially for large auto groups with multiple locations. Getting your maps info accurate can be a real aggravation. However - having correct information on your Google Map listings, and following the analytics for that site is very important as we learned in Brian Pasch’s (PCG Digital Marketing) session on Automotive Internet Reputation. The mysterious Google search algorithm finds reviews of your dealership and attaches them to your Google Map listing. When you consider how many folks view your Map listing every day, shouldn’t you worry about the reviews they will see there as well? Brian made a couple suggestions that I thought were very good, to include having some links point from your website and/or blog directly to your Map listing, and creating a portal page for all of the review sites about your dealership. Of note, Brian’s brother Glenn (with Improved Performance Solutions) also attended and presented at this conference. Glenn shared with me that he was actually Brian’s body double, used for all of his bare-chest shots…


You dropped a bomb on me – baby… My favorite one-liner from the conference is awarded to Patrick Workman with Dealer.com, who was showing me how to “drop a search-bomb” on my competition with the Dealer.com search engine marketing tool, where I could pinpoint a campaign right on top of another dealership’s location. Can you feel the love? Dealer.com continues to excel with great SEO, but I was also impressed with how they are starting to closely work with automotive ad agencies like Moore and Scarry where the ad agency is coordinating the dealership’s traditional and digital marketing efforts directly with the dealership’s website. This is tremendously important in our efforts, as we need to ensure that we are presenting one message across all marketing mediums. When you are pushing a special in your latest TV or radio commercial, or print ad, will your customer find that same special/message at your website???


I love it when vendors push stuff… Well – maybe not all the time, but in this situation, I liked what I saw. Todd Smith with ActivEngage shared a new feature that they are using within their chat tool where they can “push” a video to your website shopper. If your shopper is looking at a new model on your website and asking questions about that vehicle, the ActivEngage rep can push over a video of that vehicle to the customer via Live Chat. I like it – a lot. We need to present compelling, exciting information to our customers to keep them engaged with our online dealership showrooms, and keeping these shoppers engaged and converting them to actual phone calls, email leads, or showroom visits is key to our success.


And then a fight broke out… Well, a beat-down did appear imminent during the Wednesday morning panel discussion “The Price is Right”. A “spirited discussion” took place on the panel between Dale Pollak of vAuto and Pat Ryan Jr. of FirstLook that kept folks on the edge of their seats as each shared their philosophies on how their respective tools can best help us as dealers in selecting, marketing, and pricing our vehicles in our respective markets. Mike Waterman of DealerTrack, Jim Flint from the John Eagle Family of Dealerships and myself (with Jeff Wyler) also participated, and each of us shared our thoughts and approaches with pricing strategies. Truth is – there was great value in everything said, whether one agreed with all of it or not, and I was glad to see some sparks fly from people who truly believe in their products. Great job to all, and on a side note, my money was on Pat, as he is a former Chicago Policeman (Blues Brothers flashback!)


My secret temptation… Sometimes I bring some of my competitors’ business cards with me and hand them out while walking through the exhibit area, with a “Please call me on Monday as I am very interested in your product/service, and do NOT stop calling me if you cannot reach me”… Wouldn’t that be fun? While tempting, I have not followed up on that idea thought it would be great fun. Every conference I see more and more folks, including more of the local dealers in my area. Great to see past participant Andy Warner of the Lormar group, and first-time attendees Sarah Sweeney and Robert Sabbaugh of the Jake Sweeney Automotive Family. More and more, dealerships are understanding how important eCommerce is to our industry, and that they must excel at it.


Can I be honest for a moment? Enough already with the barrage of social media propaganda! Ok, I realize that I am being harsh here - and when I spoke to Alex Snyder at the conference he concurred and told me he was going to write about this as well. Social media was the “buzz” at DD8 and there were multiple sessions dealing with this topic, and a large amount of the exhibitors were promoting their new social media/networking tools. As I worked the exhibition hall, I asked many of these same vendors what they thought about the huge emphasis on “How are we going to get onboard with all of these social networking sites, and how are we going to sell cars there?” Truth is, many of them don’t even believe that social networking sites are the place to “sell cars”, but they are only delivering what dealers want. Let’s face it, I guarantee that there were many attendees who showed up at this conference with instructions from their GM to jump onboard this Social Networking wagon (eg. “Johnny, go down to the show and buy us some of that Social Networking stuff!”). Is this topic important? Certainly! I believe we should have a presence where we can share our online reviews, encourage our satisfied customers to interact with us, and also share relevant information and specials with our friends. BUT – let me ask you this? What did you used to think of your friends who called you about their new venture with Amway??? Hello – can we say avoid them like the plague? The same idea carries over to your Facebook, Twitter, and other social networking sites. If you are trying to blatantly sell on these sites, you will turn off your “friends”. My advice is this. Yes, social networking is important, pick some of the top sites and provide relevant information on those. Do you want to know how to do it best? Take a close look at the folks on Facebook or Twitter that you love to follow. Ask yourself why – there is your likely answer... Balance your time and efforts into focusing on other areas of your business that deserve your highest attention, such as inventory photos and descriptions, improving your website engagement and conversion, etc, rather than on feeding 200+ social networking sites with your latest Nissan special. I think a lot of dealers have got their priorities out of balance and need to keep this area in perspective…. (wow – now I am going to be like the Google Maps guy, where everyone will want my address to pay me a special visit…).

Whose map is that? Why, that would be Ron’s map of course! Many folks were telling me to stop by the booth for a new vendor, ronsmap, whom were launching their new site that is designed for consumers, but is looking for dealer participation. Want to learn more? Visit their website (Hey Ron Morrison – how is that for driving folks to your website!)


What is Jim Ziegler’s favorite website? I am not sure, but I can guarantee that his mention of adultfriendfinder.com (uh – link omitted intentionally) as one of the top social networking sites during his presentation of “How to use online social communities and Technology-enabled Marketing” kept folks interested, and also wondering if their dealership firewall would allow that site through their local network. I guess the burning question that follows-up from this is whether this same site also deals with your online reputation???

Yo! Word-up! Ahhh – the “word on the street”… Yes, I always try to spend time meeting with folks during the mixers and during the breaks between sessions to see what they are thinking, find out about what sessions they liked, and what vendors have caught their attention. Unfortunately, I found many folks that felt like many of the sessions seemed like a repeat of the previous conference in Nashville. Perhaps this is not a fair statement, but maybe there is some truth (isn’t that always found in perception?) that it seems like the same folks presenting, and there did not seem to be a lot of exciting new material. This also might be a reflection of our current market. I can share what I felt I missed, and that is - Where are we going with mobile technology and how are we going to work with our customers on this platform? I am a firm proponent of common sense, and all you had to do if you attended ANY session was stand in the back and look at the folks in the crowd. During every presentation I would see folks using their smart phones to text, check and respond to emails, or surf the web. No, it’s not just the “young folks” who are doing this, it’s all of us. I do believe the reason we don’t see many sessions or vendor solutions to this area is that we don’t know the answers yet in how to best adapt and grow with this shift in consumer behavior. I hope to see more of this in the next conference.

I love the nightlife… Of course everyone knows that all of the big rock stars and socialites hit the Orlando scene (except for Kershner..) As always, much fun had by everyone, though I have a sneaky suspicion that Brian Hannan with Cars.com took myself and the rest of the “Price is Right” panel out to dinner the night before to babysit us before our early morning presentation. I had a great time meeting Jack Simmons who is the dealer training manager at Cars.com who shared his favorite closing line with me, which I have promised to keep a secret… Pat Ryan Jr. also kept me entertained with some great stories from his earlier days as a Chicago Police detective. The gang at Clickmotive generously took me out the following night and kept me laughing as well (many thanks!). A large group of us headed out to The Blue Martini for drinks and fun on Wednesday night, where I ran into Todd Smith who had set aside some tables for all of us, and kept us entertained for the evening (thanks Todd!). I was able to run into Andrew Difeo who is now running a dealership in Florida (congrats Andrew), as well as catch up with lots of other folks including Stan Sher, Katie Richter and April Rain of Cuneo Advertising, Cliff Banks, and of course my great friend Alex Jefferson. Kudos to Cliff Banks who was up with me bright and early the following morning and helping me show the young folks that some of these old guys can still have a good time (though I suspect each of us was in bed by 8 the following evening, lol…).





Everyone else that I photographed is somewhere in this shot – is everyone happy now? Whew!

And the $1,000,000 dollar answer is… Keep your focus! Be candid and honest at where your dealership is in its online efforts. If you are just starting, or are doing very poorly, focus on the fundamentals. Work with your website and inventory presentation and work on answering your leads quickly, and on providing proper follow-up to these leads (sales AND service). If you are doing these things well, then you can start worrying about peak search engine optimization, social networking, mining your database, playing with video, and all of the other great areas that help us reach our highest levels of performance. I speak with too many folks who are overwhelmed and are worrying about not Tweeting every day or creating their next micro-site when their most pressing concern should be worrying about having someone answer the leads they are currently receiving and doing it well.

I believe the conference was a success, with increased attendance, full sessions, and lots of dealers who are excited as they feel the market is bouncing back. I enjoyed meeting so many great friends during the conference and apologize for not being able to mention everyone. We did receive the exciting announcement that Digital Dealer 9 will be in Las Vegas this fall. Upon hearing this news, I immediately starting putting together my Digital Dealer 9 conditioning program to build up my “tolerance” and learning how to live with sleep deprivation! I look forward to seeing everyone there.

Cheers!

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Excellent post. I have to agree with Stan above. Social Media has its place, but it can not be the only connection to customers. People who come into internet sales and think they can sit on a computer all day and never make some kind of personal interaction with people are sorely mistaken. Internet sales really rely on taking the tools that the internet gives you and using them to create real connections with people over the phone and *gasp* in person to make the sale. Social media is just a piece of the great puzzle and is a wonderful way to supplement what should already be in place if you are a great salesperson.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Nice post Alex. I can't agree with you more. In fact when I still had my dealership and Google started to really become popular and every vendor in the world started selling SEM marketing in some form or another I like most people became confused so I decided to become informed. I went and became Google Adword Certified. Now this might be extreme but really that upfront work educating myself paid off big when vendors came to my store selling vaporware. If I didn't take the time I might have bought useless crap without knowing any better and wasted a boat load of money chasing the dream.

I feel Social Media is at the same point as SEM was a couple of years ago. Sounds great on paper but we are all still waiting on the execution to see what happens and who can deliver. I can say their are a lot of great resources and knowledgeable people out there. Though most are outside the auto space. My suggestion is roll up your sleeves, educate yourself then start small.

As professionals we must continually educate ourselves for our ability to learn faster than our competitors is our only real competitive advantage in the age of the Internet.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

A lot of very valid points. I enjoy the conference and the speakers. There were some great presentations of social media but bery few. The only issue that I have with this is that we are getting so ahead of ourselves. Social media became the most important thing. Yes it is great for relationship building, reputation management, and keeping your name out there. However, we have not seen trackable ROI as of yet. We stopped talking about the basics. We stopped talking about the important of handling the pones properly or handling your leads properly. We stopped talking about things an effective internet sales manager should be doing and how they should be doing them. We talk about technology and how should be used. We over talk about social media. It is ridiculous and at this point very annoying. Let's talk about social media but let us not forget that people coming to these sessions what to know how to not only better position themselves in the digital space but also how to sell more cars effectively. Another interesting thing that I saw was that I had an idea about a year ago to do something but I questioned the success of it and how it will operate. Well now I see about eight other ideas exactly like mine competing for dealer business by selling social media services. Well I would like to wish these company a lot of luck because it is interesting to see how they progress and what they can do for automotive dealers.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Alex -- thanks so much for replying! As you know I am interested in transitioning into the "digital dealer" market from the vendor side, your reference to the 85%/15% mix astonishes me. Makes me even more convinced of the tremendous opportunity for me to do my fair share in advancing automotive retailing, sharing and explaining the value of what the new & traditional marketing offer -- for the sake of owners, consumers, and vendors. And thank you and your community for showing the way.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Juan - there is always going to be a certain level of frustration with our vendors, no matter how good they are. When it comes to digital marketing, our vendors hold the keys to the kingdom. Most of the dealers you are following are the more proactive. These dealers will get the basics right and push vendors to do more, and this is where their frustration will mostly stem from. Unfortunately, this is maybe 15% of the dealers out there. The other 85% just don't understand what vendors are doing for them on the more advanced levels. So, their frustration is more with themselves.

On a second note to this, Rob makes a good point in saying that most vendors were once dealers. They may not fully understand everything themselves and that is where this article comes into play. I heard a lot of bad advice being given at DD8 and have seen some stuff happen on DealerRefresh - this is where the frustration you're reading in this article comes from.

Eric - good point. I was hoping that part would go without saying, but you're right - I need to make things more obvious.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Alex,

Of course, nicely put together.

Ironically, I wrote my post before seeing yours - and having seen several other SM optimization articles recently, there's 1 item that is consistently left out...Listening to your clients, listening to industry peers and anyone else willing to bend your ear...

http://whatdidericsay.com/2010/04/1-missing-socia...

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

@Juan Lulli I think that the mistrust stems from the early days of the Automotive Dealers Internet Sales era. Many Dealers fell pray to buying worthless shiney objects that were "cutting edge" and would cure all of their internet sales needs.

A lot of wasted money later there are still many dealers that are in their infancy where their digital programs are concerned and the bright shiny objects are still out there.

There are many great companies at DD that are very willing to partner with dealers to help them achieve success, They are usually not the trend jumpers but the trend setters.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

I did not attend this month’s Digital Dealer 8 in Orlando; I figured that not that much could have changed since 7 in Nashville (plus I live in Florida and would rather fly to Tajikistan than drive to Orlando, but that’s just me) I must admit that all the posts and tweets from the exhibition hall made me a little jealous. I am not sure though that I could have stomached the “Social Media Fest” that took place.

Every trade show has a buzz word or right now product or service to sell or there would be no trade shows. I don't think that I have ever seen or heard of a more ambiguous service or product than "Social Media" expert.

If you are now convinced that you need to jump into the “Social Media” ring with your dealership or business remember this. If you think that you are going to use this medium for anything other than what is was born to be you are mistaken. Whether it is your dealerships facebook page or you decide that you are ready for blogs and forums please listen to people like Alex, they are designed for social interaction so participate in them. Don’t stand out front with a sign like your trying get on the Today show, because that is exactly what will happen, you will find yourself “outside.”

I am not sure what to tell anyone who is now convinced that they need to pay someone or some company to manage their facebook and twitter pages. I only wish that I could be a fly on the wall during those discussions with their GM when they return to the store.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

...quick follow up...

While following the event from afar (not being at #DD8), I've detected in some of the dealer twitter stream a sense of impatience or irritability or distrust of vendors, their approach and methods. It seemed to me that from the dealer side of the market, there is a perception that the vendor side of the market spends lots of time "engaging" but little time actually "listening and sharing."

Thoughts Alex, Jeff, dealers?

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Alex, your opening paragraph hits the nail on the head.

"vendors" all too often are ex-dealership sales guys who are attempting to impart their wisdom. They've had a history of teaching sales, which is great because that is what they know.

Why is it then, that these guys feel they are qualified to be teaching media strategies?

To use just a single, small example, when I finally began promoting Driven Wheels on Twitter, I came across several dealers who were asking me for advice on the most basic of topics. What is Follow Friday? What is #? How can I see responses from my followers?

In several cases, these dealers had been "coached" to use social media by traditional auto sales "vendors". Rather than coaching, it is more like blind leading blind.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

I'm a life-long sales & marketing guy with an increasing interest in following, learning, and -- hopefully soon -- involving myself professionally in the "digital dealer" vendor marketplace. From an outsider's perspective, then, I am struck by your assessment of digital dealer vendor community as not "understand[ing]how Social Media truly works..."

Wow.

This is surely bound to cause, hopefully, discussion and reflection. So I wonder, are vendors "talking to," "talking with," or "talking down" dealers? Are vendors "presenting to" or "sharing with" dealers?

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

Great post, and you are right! We are seeing a lot of WHY an auto dealer should be using social media but not a whole lot on HOW to use it effectively.

I see a lot of vendors focusing on technology without giving much thought to the human side in all of this. After all technology changes but the human side never will.

Social Media Etiquette for Vendors

I agree regarding spamming. When you are just pitching cars on your facebook page you are asking for the "hide button" or worse, fans leaving your group. My theory is that you aim to give the fans more than cars. I try to mix up what I post. As a GM dealer I try to build trust with the brand rather than push the brand. Also, I post things non-car related to push people to the page when I do begin posting car specials. I have posted my page and would love any comments you all may have!

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Vassar-...

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