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Hey ZAG - Enforce your own rules or drop them!

From my perspective, Zag is a cash cow. I'm paid solely on units and appointments. That of course raises the ethical dilemma of my own income vs. dealership profit. Of course the two are directly related and we certainly don't lose money via zag. It's just a matter of time and energy and the fact that every deal or negotiation becomes a huge pain in the ass.

None the less, I'd say I set 10-20 appointments per month from ZAG usually resulting in 3-6 sales. The appointment close rate is lower because it turns quickly into trying to explain, no we can't match so and so dealer's ridiculous $2,000 price under invoice. The reason they stop here first is we are the only dealer in our market with ZAG. We work the fee into the deal as well so I feel like we often if anything lose a price war to non-zag dealers rather than other ZAG dealers.

I've had success so far in this business because I'm genuinely an honest person maybe too much so for this business and when I talk to the customer personally they usually understand. If it's through email or if they come in and meet with someone while I'm not there, it doesn't go as well.

In the end, as long as it generates sales I guess I'm willing to deal with the BS. The sales staff can do what they will to generate gross and have had a little success making money on the back end and buying trades right.

Speaking of which...what the hell is with the policy that you "can't offer financing to pre-approved customers etc?
 
From my perspective, Zag is a cash cow. I'm paid solely on units and appointments. That of course raises the ethical dilemma of my own income vs. dealership profit. Of course the two are directly related and we certainly don't lose money via zag. It's just a matter of time and energy and the fact that every deal or negotiation becomes a huge pain in the ass.

None the less, I'd say I set 10-20 appointments per month from ZAG usually resulting in 3-6 sales. The appointment close rate is lower because it turns quickly into trying to explain, no we can't match so and so dealer's ridiculous $2,000 price under invoice. The reason they stop here first is we are the only dealer in our market with ZAG. We work the fee into the deal as well so I feel like we often if anything lose a price war to non-zag dealers rather than other ZAG dealers.

In the end, as long as it generates sales I guess I'm willing to deal with the BS. The sales staff can do what they will to generate gross and have had a little success making money on the back end and buying trades right.

Speaking of which...what the hell is with the policy that you "can't offer financing to pre-approved customers etc?

The closing ratio for shown appointments is horrible. I would hate to see what it would be as a percentage of leads. I'm out on working low percentage leads and putting up with a bunch of leeches. There is nothing wrong with asking yourself, "what is in it for me"? I protect the store.

I've been around a lot of stores and I don't know any that bid cars at two grand below invoice unless there is a disclaimer in the fine print.
 

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Dealers frustrate over ZAG's business model, particularly its requirement to offer deeply discounted "special pricing" while competing against other dealers who undercut them, and concern that ZAG uses dealer pricing data against them while providing inconsistent ROI. While some dealers acknowledge value in accessing USAA and military customers, most agree ZAG exploits dealers by essentially paying them to advertise lower prices that customers then use to negotiate better deals elsewhere. The consensus is that dealers created this vendor problem by continually adopting services without enforcing accountability, and should either demand ZAG enforce its own pricing rules or drop the service entirely.

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