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There's a big difference between marketing and sales. Marketing is like the fisherman who finds satisfaction in catching and giving it away. Sales people like to catch and eat.

I think the car business is unique enough that just being a marketing guy is not enough, you need to be on the sales floor to really understand the business. Give it a shot, the worst thing that happens is you wind up where you are now but with invaluable experience.
 
I think the car business is unique enough that just being a marketing guy is not enough, you need to be on the sales floor to really understand the business. Give it a shot, the worst thing that happens is you wind up where you are now but with invaluable experience.

+1. You HAVE to get on the floor sometime in your life if you're looking to move up in this business. I have met very few people who are in a managerial position at a dealership without having worked the floor.
 
+1. You HAVE to get on the floor sometime in your life if you're looking to move up in this business. I have met very few people who are in a managerial position at a dealership without having worked the floor.

It is really simple...

Two guys apply for an ISM position that does not take customer traffic, just generates it.

Applicant one - Never sold cars, does not like selling... has great computer and marketing skills on and off the internet.

Applicant two - Sold cars for a little while years averaging 8-12 cars a month... not an all star but can close a customer... has great computer and marketing skills on and off the internet.

David... right now you are applicant one... and you could easily be number two... I think you know which one is getting hired.
 
It is really simple...

Two guys apply for an ISM position that does not take customer traffic, just generates it.

Applicant one - Never sold cars, does not like selling... has great computer and marketing skills on and off the internet.

Applicant two - Sold cars for a little while years averaging 8-12 cars a month... not an all star but can close a customer... has great computer and marketing skills on and off the internet.

David... right now you are applicant one... and you could easily be number two... I think you know which one is getting hired.

Which is one reason why I probably won't be working in a dealership. If I was 20-25 years old, it would be an adventure I'd be willing to take on ... but I've learned that I need to do what makes me most happy and self-fulfilling. I've been working with sales for nearly 20 years, and it's not undiscovered territory. I respect and appreciate a good sales person, but from a lot of direct experience, it's not a role I wish to further pursue.

I'm very self-assured and self-aware in my value as an individual and team player--and were my talents lie. If I were to continue looking for a job in this industry, I realize that most dealers would rather have someone with sales more experience ... and that's OK. I think my efforts in the automotive vertical has help me define my future.

As for the sales position, I was able to refer them to a great sales person--which is doing them a bigger favor than if I stepped into the part.
 

✨ AI Highlights

  • Jerry Thibeau hired David Moon, a community member who had previously sought advice on DealerRefresh about breaking into the automotive industry, to redesign his dealership's website after Moon didn't land a job elsewhere.
  • Moon successfully created a refreshed, professional look for Phone Ninjas (formerly Phone-Up Ninjas), earning praise from community members and demonstrating the value of networking and taking chances on talented individuals within the DealerRefresh community.
  • The thread concludes with Moon potentially reconnecting with the BMW dealer that initially passed on him, highlighting how persistence and quality work can create unexpected second opportunities.

Jerry Thibeau hired David Moon, a community member who had previously sought advice on DealerRefresh about breaking into the automotive industry, to redesign his dealership's website after Moon didn't land a job elsewhere. Moon successfully created a refreshed, professional look for Phone Ninjas (formerly Phone-Up Ninjas), earning praise from community members and demonstrating the value of networking and taking chances on talented individuals within the DealerRefresh community. The thread concludes with Moon potentially reconnecting with the BMW dealer that initially passed on him, highlighting how persistence and quality work can create unexpected second opportunities.

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