• This thread is just the tip of the iceberg.The people ahead of the curve aren't Googling for answers — they're already in here, having the conversations you haven't found yet. DealerRefresh is free.Get the full picture →

Your Favorite Metric

What's more important?

  • VDP Views

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • Lead Conversion

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Total voters
    23
If I'm an ISM paid on lead to sale, the answer is conversion.

If I'm a forward thinking dealer principle, I want VDP views. All. Day. Long.

More VDP views can equal more online form leads but it's also going to increase phone calls and more importantly, foot traffic.

When are we going to quit being so lead centric and focus on the experience, effortlessly leading the customer right through the showroom door?

Bonus: a vehicle with a shit load of VDP views and no action is telling you something.

Online Lead conversion alone is a "blind" metric.
 
Last edited:
Alex, reading the questions from your survey above - is this a 2 part question? Take the survey and also list your favorite overall metric, no matter the metric?

If so - one of my favorite metics is Lead to Show. We typically focus so much on leads and lead to sold. I want to know how many shows.

Before anyone takes this off topic around the metric of Lead to Show - read this first.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mpreiber
Alex, reading the questions from your survey above - is this a 2 part question? Take the survey and also list your favorite overall metric, no matter the metric?

I'm curious as to what people are putting their money on these days. And also asking what, of the two main things I hear about, they deem most important. So, yes, this is a 2 part question.
 
Right now, my focus is on actually getting leads or website conversion. My overall philosophy is really along the lines of what Jeff is saying below with a really big focus on the "Bonus" comment. I have been driving lots of traffic to a website that just does not convert at all. I have a shit load of VDP views and NO action...which has told me something. My current website sucks and it is getting replaced.

When I have a website that will actually encourage a customer to ask questions and want to know more, my focus will absolutely be VDP views. I see a VDP view no different than a customer walking around on my lot. The more people that will look, the more vehicles that I will sell.


If I'm an ISM paid on lead to sale, the answer is conversion.

If I'm a forward thinking dealer principle, I want VDP views. All. Day. Long.

More VDP views can equal more online form leads but it's also going to increase phone calls and more importantly, foot traffic.

When are we going to quit being so lead centric and focus on the experience, effortlessly leading the customer right through the showroom door?

Bonuse: a vehicle with a shit load of VDP views and no action is telling you something.

Online Lead conversion alone is a "blind" metric.
 
My favorite metric, which may seem odd is customer engagement. How many internet customers are we actually getting a hold of? Are they even opening their emails? Are they answering the phone? Is their phone number legit? The list goes on

How many customers am I actually getting a hold of!??!!!??? I manually count all 150-200 leads every month for these metrics!
 
  • Like
Reactions: joe.pistell
Clearly leads are easier to sell but there is great value and importance in seeing multiple VDP views per session. Or even better repeat exact vin VDP views in multiple sessions. IE the customer can't get enough of the vehicle and is getting closer to a visit.

Come on everything is important. This is a hard question to answer
 
Of these two I have to vote for VDP's. I do believe that they turn into the "mystery conversion" as walk-ins to our dealership without filling out a form. Do you have map views and directions page views setup as a goal in Google Analytics? Whenever I see a lift in VDP views I can bet that I will also see a lift in the amount of people viewing maps and directions. Perfect science? Of course not but I do believe there is a relationship to the two sets of numbers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: joe.pistell
I used to believe that there was a direct correlation between the number of unique visitors on your website and the number of cars sold. I now believe, more specifically, there is a direct correlation between the number of VDP's and the number of cars sold. I pay attention to lead form submissions and conversion, but lead submissions can be down (like they were in January) but over all website traffic (AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, lot traffic) was WAY UP over the previous month. So, I have a hard time tying conversions into overall sales effectiveness. I'm a VDP fanboy...
 

✨ AI Highlights

Dealers debate whether VDP (Vehicle Detail Page) views or lead conversion is the more valuable metric to track for dealership success. While conversion-focused metrics appeal to those directly paid on sales, several contributors argue that VDP views are the superior leading indicator—correlating with foot traffic, phone calls, and eventual sales—and that obsessing over lead conversion alone can mask underlying issues like poor website design or customer engagement problems. The emerging consensus is that VDP views should be prioritized as a diagnostic tool, but both metrics matter and should be understood in context rather than in isolation.

Replies Views 22 13,605 Started Last Reply