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From Bad To Great!

Joe,

I asked Tim that very question and he did not have an answer ready for me me when I interviewed him.  I can tell you that we're monitoring every call they take and they are appointing at an 80% rate.  It's a small town, so calls are not as plentiful as they are at Sun Auto.  They also make service appointments and route all the dealerships phone traffic.

Jerry

From Bad To Great!

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This is a story of how one dealership went from bad to great on the telephone in just 6 months. Since I started Phone Ninjas in 2009, I have seen my fair share of success stories, but the one I am about to share with you is a classic.

This past February I received a call from Joe Webb, President of Dealer Knows Consulting asking me if I would be willing to join him on a joint training adventure to Granger Motors in Granger, Iowa. He would focus on Internet skills with the sales team and I would work with the BDC on how to handle incoming phone-ups. I eagerly accepted his offer and we made plans to visit Granger in March.

Upon our arrival, we met with the General Manager, Tim Hommer for the first hour to go over our game plan. Tim informed me that I would be training four women with little automotive experience. Their only experience had been answering the phones as receptionist and routing calls to the appropriate dealership departments. This seemed like nothing out of the ordinary for me since I had trained quite a few green peas in my day.

Unfortunately I was in for a rude awakening.

Training took place in the BDC, a small room with just enough room for the five of us. After being introduced, I informed the team that I was going to teach them how to sell appointments. I made the wrong choice in words when I used the word “sell.” I quickly got, “we were never told we would have to sell anything.” Looks of enthusiasm quickly turned to fear and I knew this would be a challenge.

I began teaching the scripts and was met with reluctance every step of the way. Two of the reps felt uncomfortable asking customers for their name and numbers. All of them felt uncomfortable asking for an appointment. By the end of the day I had made three of them cry and one was threatening to quit. By the next morning one of them did quit. However, as she was the most opinionated and the other three trainees often fed off her comments, I figured this could only make training a little bit easier.

Things seemed to improve for a few hours, but by lunch time the other three were threatening to quit as well. They were dead set against trying anything I was teaching them. Tim had to intervene on a couple of occasions to keep them from a mutiny.

Nine years as a trainer and this was by far one of my most challenging engagements. By the end of the final day I had covered the material in full and the team started taking calls. They actually showed some promise when a few appointments were set. Unfortunately things deteriorated once I left. The team quickly became information givers and; the only time “appointment” was mentioned was if the customer brought it up. Often the staff would transfer the calls to a salesperson which resulted in only more information being given and no appointments being set.

The Phone Ninjas staff monitored and coached calls for a month and no progress was being made. Tim and I met at Digital Dealer 10 to discuss options. One option was to terminate the BDC staff and focus on training the sales staff. Tim and I both viewed this as a last resort since so much time and money had been invested in the BDC. Tim asked if I would have one last heart to heart with the team to see if we could salvage the BDC. So I arranged a conference call with the team and proceeded to tell them that it was time for action or they would all be looking for jobs in a tough economy. They all agreed jobs were tough to come by in Granger, Iowa. There was no sugar coating it and, they would either deliver or be gone within 30 days. Tim was 100% behind this decision and had the same conversation with the team. Tim had made the right decision.

During the conference call one of the team members asked if she could have a private conversation with me. I agreed and asked her to call me later that day where she proceeded to inform me that she wanted to adapt and that she needed this job badly. She also said that she thought one of the team members was sabotaging the success of the department. I conducted a second interview with another team member and this concern was reinforced when the same message was echoed. I tried to talk with the person in question, but she did not want to talk. I suspected they were right and closely monitored their progress. Sure enough their claims became legitimate and Tim decided to part ways with the person in question.

Tim quickly replaced her with a new candidate and we were off and running again. We decided to do a few rounds of phone role play over the next month to get the team back on track. Progress was being made when we noticed coaching scores improve. Each month they progressed and became more confident as demonstrated in the scoring chart below.

Today I am happy to say they are the highest scoring dealer ever on our coaching program. In July they achieved the highest monthly average ever achieved with an average score of 3.47 on a scale of 0-4 across 20 coached calls. Only a small handful of dealers ever achieve an average score over 3.0 by month’s end. As of the completion of this article, this dealership has managed to achieve more with an average score of 3.82.

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In preparation for this article I asked Tim a series of questions to help those of you who may be contemplating installation of a BDC.

Jerry Thibeau: What made you decide to go the BDC route?
Tim Hommer: Two members of my staff and I went to Digital Dealer 9 in Las Vegas in October 2010 looking for an upgrade to our CRM. Each of us decided it would be best if we each went to different sessions and; I went to one titled BDC on a beer budget. This intrigued me since I had been floating the idea around about doing a BDC with our current receptionist. Every night the three of us would eat and discuss what we wanted to bring home. The last day I went to a session where we listened to phone calls from different stores and they were mostly bad. One thing I remember was a story about calling Southwest airlines where a real person who is trained to help you answers the phone. “I can help you with that” was the phrase that stuck with me and I wanted that to be our motto at Granger Motors. We picked out three CRM’s for further investigation and in the end decided on Vin Solutions. I had decided that we were also going to go with a BDC solution because our sales staff was inefficient on the telephone.

Jerry Thibeau: How did you go about choosing the people to staff your BDC?
Tim Hommer: Not being a large store with megabucks to spend on a BDC we decided to use our current receptionist staff. We had our general receptionist, a part time receptionist and a full time service receptionist. We decided to add a fourth person to the mix in case one didn’t work out. Once the team was complete we had only added about 30 hours per week in payroll and two more people to our insurance rolls.

Jerry Thibeau: What were your thoughts after being operational for a month?
Tim Hommer: That I had the wrong people in place and this was not going to work out. I could not get them to follow a script. I called you and we decided to formulate a game plan at Digital Dealer 10.

Jerry Thibeau: What would you say was the transformational moment that turned it all around?
Tim Hommer: When the staff was informed that the BDC would be closed if progress wasn’t made. The second round of individual training was taken more seriously.

Jerry Thibeau: How would you rate the effectiveness of your BDC now?
Tim Hommer: They are doing a great job on phone-ups, but we still have some room for improvement. In July we appointed 79 phone shoppers. 31 of those customers showed for an appointment and we sold 12.

Jerry Thibeau: What were they before you started your BDC?
Tim Homer: We had no way of tracking prior to the BDC or Vin Solutions.

Jerry Thibeau: If you had it all over to do again, what would you do differently?
Tim Hommer: I would not change a thing. The first couple of months were very difficult, but perseverance paid off. Our dealership would not be where we are today without Vin Solutions, Joe Webb and the Phone Ninja, Jerry Thibeau.

Jerry Thibeau: Do you have any future plans for your BDC?
Tim Hommer: We plan to expand the scope of the BDC over the next year to start being more pro active with our customer base on outbound calls. We would also like to start surveying our customers so that we may strive for excellence in customer service. END

I would like to address the low show ratio Granger Motors is experiencing. When dealers become more proficient at setting appointments, they generally draw people in from a wider radius resulting in a lower show ratio since people typically do not drive the longer distances. Even taking the distance factor into consideration, the show ratio is still lower than it should be. Our goal at Phone Ninjas is to continue coaching the staff to make the appointment sooner than later, since appointments made sooner have a higher show ratio. Joe Webb from Dealer Knows Consulting has recently altered the action plans within the CRM system to include management confirmation calls, appointment reminders, and missed appointment follow-up calls. A combination of these three actions will help increase the show ratio. To learn more about the management confirmation calls and missed appointment calls, please visit our phone scripts under “Ninja Tools”.

The real key to this dealerships success was when Tim decided to explore the world outside of Granger Motors by attending Digital Dealer 9. Tim was introduced to new concepts and technologies that have changed the way dealers sell cars. Digital Dealer 11 will kick off on the 5th of October 2011 and conclude on the 7th. If you like mediocrity and status quo, then stay home. If you are ready for take your dealership to the next level, then stop what you’re doing and make your reservations today! This isn’t a sales pitch for DD11, this is my attempt to help you become better at what you do. The quickest way to become an old dog is to stop learning new tricks! The automotive industry is filled with innovation and it’s time to see the forest through the trees, just as Tim did one year ago.

The team from left to right, Tim Hommer, Amanda Ladwig, Casey Olson, Brenda Hemmingson and Albert Schmitz

IT, oh how I love thee

I read that article when it came out earlier this week and again after you posted this Theron.  That is definitely the downside, but there really is no way for any dealership to afford the kind of NSA/CIA/FBI security that is needed to block a real attack from hackers.  

We just have to measure the risk, decide who the primary customer of IT is, and roll with any punches.  I will promise you that if the primary customer of an IT department is a security protocol, these breaches can still happen.

IT, oh how I love thee

So true, the IT element of the dealership isn't easy. I've found that the IT dept. (me) needs to have a thicker skin than the car guys in the showroom. 

I've tried hard to push for usability first & have to say that it's taken about 5 years for that mentality to sink in. Doubling bandwidth, better workflow processes, and nice equipment all helped - but the one item that worked the best...simply listening to what the guys in the stores were saying & finding them the best solutions possible. 

IT, oh how I love thee

I am a customer of the IT department.  I am not an IT expert.  I am just a customer.

Ed Shaffer asked a simple question in the comment string of the article titled "Does your Dealer block Social Media:"

[Why haven't we addressed] The bandwidth drain that YouTube and Fb would have on our already thinly stretched pipe…

This question got me thinking about where the perspectives of IT administrators come from.  As a customer of the IT department, who happens to be interested in history, I want to start to answer that question with:

The Evolution of the Dealership IT Department
It all began with the DMS.  The original DMS systems were based on tapes, but that's not the important part.  The important part is that there was really only one user of the original DMS:  the accounting department.  In the case of my dealership, that was our CFO.  Back then she had to be the person who maintained and managed the DMS system.  Her responsibilities revolved around not only keeping the dealership financially sound, but also in safeguarding the data in our early DMS system.

In time, our DMS company added more functionality for other parts of the dealership and the CFO no longer could handle all the maintenance and needs this brought.  This signified the birth of the IT department at my dealership.

On the sales, service, parts, rental, and bodyshop side there really wasn't much need to do a ton in the DMS at first.  We were still handwriting RO's, deals, parts orders, and even had a fantastic microfiche system that was actually really good (I kind of miss it).  So, IT was tasked with one big priority:  safeguarding the data.

Over the last 15 years things like dealership websites have developed, online inventory display, CRM's, ILM's, inventory management, etc etc etc.  As a lot of things moved to the web, the IT department did all they could to continue striving toward their number one priority:  safeguarding the data.  So they built elaborate security systems, they built monitoring systems, and they even gave us email!  But these things came at an expense on the user:  things got slow.

The slowness stemmed from these elaborate and secure networks.

A trade-off for good security is reduced speed.

What's the problem today?
Today our IT departments still have to safeguard the data.  But they also have to balance all the demands all these different technological tools create.  When was the last time you looked at how many systems a sales manager is working in at one time?  How do you speed things up?  Is it getting a sales manager a faster computer?  Is it buying more bandwidth from your ISP?  If it were only that simple...

The fact is it isn't simple.  The fact is that we have an evolved need that has changed from our original needs.  We have so many more users today, and only so much money to spend that doesn't directly turn into profit.

I am a customer of IT
As a customer I believe it is time to redefine what is important.  I think it may be time to figure out what our true needs are today.  I think it is time to figure out whether security is the most important thing our IT departments can be providing.  Because security is slow and technology is a hog.

If, at a really high-level, we can define two IT priorities:  Security and Usability, can we figure out which one is most needed?  If usability becomes the priority, then is our IT department capable of making that transition?  Can they give us a fast network that meets our needs and still provide an adequate level of data security?

Sincerely,
A frustrated customer

P.S.  I'm not really a frustrated IT customer anymore because I now live in a world where usability is the first priority of an IT department.  Usability first, patch the holes that need patching second.  It is my newfound experience that has made me understand why many of my past vendors (from my dealership days) didn't appreciate the IT dilemma that plagues many dealerships.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

My two cents:

I sell Suzuki.  I love Suzuki, but as a brand and product it is pretty low on peoples' shopping lists.  In my market I outsell, in no particular order, Honda, Chevy, Nissan, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia, Dodge, Jeep, etc.  In fact, only two Ford stores and a Toyota store outsell Suzuki of Wichita. 

My customers buy Suzuki of Wichita - NOT Suzuki.  I understand the definition of a product.  Our product is our environment, culture, team, processes, and message.

I think Jeff is correct.  While we are all selling metal, we should be focusing on the things behind the metal.  The things that set us apart from all the other dealerships we compete with.  This is truly our product and the most important thing to focus on...

Just sayin'

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

Jeff, The ONLY thing I was arguing about was the definition of the word "Product". I agree wholeheartedly with Alex's goal. And I agree with the statement, "If your people don't know how they are adding value, then they will not be adding much of it and they will not be fulfilled".

A car dealer is considered to be pretty darn successful if they can hold onto 3 cents of every dollar they bring in. There can be absolutely no doubt that developing a great culture at your dealership will add value for the customer. That "great culture" translates into being your brand. And if that can add 1 penny on the dollar, you've gone from being a average dealer to a highly profitable dealer.

If "evolving" the definition of a word helps you accomplish that, so be it. :)

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

In classical marketing terms, Ed is right about the car being the product or merchandise. The dealership is the end of the distribution channel, the retailer. That isn't to say that retailers don't add value to the product, they must. However, marketers generally don't refer to the value added by sales efforts as a product. The service of vehicle repair is a product, the service lane is distribution. Having said that, the lines can get a little blurry.

A retailer of bottled water at the beach adds place utility. Nothing more, but it is worth a premium. Walmart doesn't add value any differently than its competitors, but it does it for less. If you sell cars at a premium, then you need to be able to demonstrate the added value. If you can't demonstrate it to the customer in the age of transparency and choice, then you need to think about selling on a low-priced transaction basis.

Some retailers actually make the product. Starbucks and Cold Stones were mentioned. Both of these companies add value to the product, primarily buy making it custom. They both try to add value beyond the product: clean restrooms, atmosphere, friendly service.

I don't think anyone is wrong here, it is more a question of vocabulary. In the pop-culture that surrounds marketing, the vocabulary constantly changes. In classical marketing terms the word product means what it has always meant.

All this misses Alex's fantastic point. If your people don't know how they are adding value, then they will not be adding much of it and they will not be fulfilled. To Joe's point, enhancing confidence adds value, but I think some stores need to be realistic about how much of this value they actually deliver and what it is worth. Getting the shopper into the right vehicle with the right mix of accessories, financing, service contracts, etc. is also a job worth doing and being rewarded for. Rarely are  the differences in vehicle prices equal to the cost of buying the wrong car and having to switch again. Proper matchmaking is just one way dealers can add value, but you need to be honest about whether or not you are in the business of proper matchmaking. I doubt anyone at a high-end dating service ever put a spiff on Ugly Betty because she had been around for 90 days.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

Any of you people ever been in a Starbucks? Sure you have. If your like me, it's my second home. What happens if you get a bad drink at Starbucks? I'll bet most people don't know 'cause they never had a bad drink there.

According to John Moore who wrote Tribal Knowledge...Business Wisdom Brewed From the Grounds of Starbucks Coffee, Starbucks is in the people business serving coffee.

To answer my original question, IF you got a bad drink, the Barista throws it away and makes you exactly what you want.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

Joe,

Maybe I'm just an old fuddy duddy, but I will always contend that the "what" is a the car. The "how" in the case of a car dealer, is by instilling confidence.

You can't take your eye off the "how" for a minute just as you can't take your eye off the "what".

The product and the process go hand in hand and one without the other is a major problem. So Joe, I'm in full agreement that the customer is looking for more than just the car, the product if you will. My concern would be that it might be easy for some to put more emphasis on "how" we sell rather than "what" we sell. In the long term, that is a recipe for failure.

Jeff mentions a number of companies. Cold Stone Creamery sells a great "what" and the "how" is spectacular. ShowBiz Pizza sold a questionable "what" combined with a spectacular "how" - they no longer exist.

I'm not suggesting that the car is the only thing thing that matters to a consumer. It's not, they have lots of choices and you had better be differentiating yourself. But in the end, it's the car they pay their money for.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

What is the customer buying? The Product? The Smiling Sales Rep? The
Internet Cafe in Svc? The Inflatable Gorilla?  NO.  I think the customer
is buying... Confidence.

Consumers seek a seller that inspires Confidence. The showroom visit is all about overcoming fears:
-Do you have a history of selling good product?
-Is this Product offered at a fair price?
-Does this Product have a good history?
-Will this product get me to work?
-If this product fails, will you be there for me?

We Sell Confidence.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

OK Jeff - Point taken. I'd still contend that "product" of Cold Stone Creamery is the ice cream (with all the delicious toppings and flavors being mixed in). The product alone isn't only the REASON people eat there. But, that product (the delicious ice cream treat) still better be good.

At a car dealership there will be many reasons for a customer to buy from you including reputation, location, etc. But at the end of the day you're selling a car. You can't expect a customer to buy a car they don't want at a price that doesn't make sense - at least not very often. EVERYTHING matters but the car is still the product we retail.

A bad product with lots of nice amenities surrounding it is still a bad product.

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

Jeff Kershner: [Screw that - If it were my dealership, my business, my heart and soul, you better bet it would be a "product."]

Would it?  Or would the DOLLAR be the heart and soul?

I know very, very few people who get into this business for the LOVE of selling and servicing cars.  I know quite a few people in this business who LOVE making the income you can make in automotive.

So then, maybe, your "product" is your "focus?"

What Is Your Dealerships Product?

Great article Alex.

The part that gets interesting is how dealers execute and communicate that that quality product across all of their marketing outlets (especially in the digital realm).  Very many dealer websites out there that do not effectively communicate a dealers quality product (or even a "why buy from us" statement) whether it be a slide on the home page or even a blurb on an "About Us" page.

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