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Why hasn't CRM sold me more cars?

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All of my DealerRefresh articles are inspired by something I have come across recently. This one is certainly no exception.  As most dealership employees whose job focuses around "the Internet" I too wear quite a few hats. One of those hats screams I am the CRM Dude at my dealer group. It is actually one of my favorite responsibilities because it is a never-ending cycle of developing better process, and I find that fun! In my travels from store to store, I come across the same question from frustrated sales people again and again:

Why hasn't this CRM stuff helped me sell any more cars?

The answer is - it has! However, there are reasons why this question is being asked in the first place:

  1. Redundant Dealership Processes
  2. Too many customers
  3. Too many CRM's/systems

These three things work together to destroy a dealership employee's ability to buy into CRM.

I am very fortunate to have access to someone who I regard as "Mr. Dealership Process" who works for a CRM company and travels around the country. He is also a good friend who has helped me with all my CRM questions over the past few years. He asked to remain anonymous in this article, but I have to credit him with helping me write the rest of this.

1.  What does a CRM really do?

Technically it is a Contact/Customer Relationship Management tool, but we don't use it that way.  We use CRM as a tool to capture and move "data".  We rarely think of that data for what it really is; a live person that could potentially become a customer in the future. Instead all we want to do is make them disappear  because we get sick of seeing their names on our screens. However, real CRM power comes in the form of what it creates for the future. The Future....Yeah, the really bad F word in our vocabulary.  Unless we're executives, we're not thinking too much about the future. We're in it for Now, Now, Now! Even managers and owners condition sales people to focus on NOW. Successful, veteran, sales people will tell you the real magic of sales is repeat and referral business that comes after 3-4 years of constant follow-up that cultivates a database or "live person base" without fail.

Pair a now culture (read Why We Suck) with something that makes us move into a planning culture and we're doing battle.  Call it Old School vs. New School if you like.

2.  What does a CRM rely on?

The phone. For the vast majority of dealerships phone training is either a 30 minute Saturday morning meeting or a very expensive "trainer" from the outside. And when we were trained by our managers, in the dealership, it was mostly about what to do when the customer is at your desk, not about what to say on the phone or in an email. CRM works to get a customer to your desk where you are at your best. It does little for you when the customer is actually there.

If you get better on the phone, CRM will help you sell more cars. Plowing through the calls each day that are scheduled in the CRM by just clicking buttons will not help you sell more cars. You must work at your voicemail messages and appointment closing techniques each day if you want to achieve incremental sales success in the future.

3.  Creating Process

CRM makes us build process. We have to plan ahead for all those follow-ups we're going to place on our staff. Does it make sense to "set it and forget it" when it comes to your follow-up processes?  This should be one of the biggest focuses your dealership has because this is where the rubber meets the road. Remember to put your best people on your biggest opportunity.

This is where buy-in comes from the strongest. Make sure each opportunity that is scheduled in the CRM adds value to the user. One of the biggest reasons sales people and managers don't completely buy-in is due to the fact that scheduled CRM follow-ups are redundant or meaningless opportunities based on the current status of the customer.

Make sure that the decision makers, in your company, interview top performing sales people at least once a year to better understand what is working and not in regards to your follow-up processes. This will help make sure your organization is keeping pace with your staff's experience levels and customer trends.

This is how you fix the two items I mentioned at the beginning of this article: 1. Redundant Dealership Process and 2. Too Many Customers on daily follow-up. It will dramatically affect overall dealership buy-in to the CRM.

Instead of thinking about it as how can this help me now, also think about it as how can this help me 3 years from now.

4.  Too Many Systems

If you have an ILM and a CRM, consolidate! There are way too many options on the market to continue to make some of your staff work out of multiple systems. There are even CRM companies that offer inventory support, service writing, penciling, and the list goes on and on. If your sales managers are working out of more than 3 systems (CRM, Inventory, Used Car Pricing, ILM, Penciling, OEM System, etc) it is time to re-look at what you've got.

With too many systems, you cannot expect someone to handle all perfectly. It's tough to expect your managers to inspect what you expect if they have to login, learn, and master multiple systems; which is what it takes to hold the sales staff accountable.

5.  Expectations

What do you want your technology to do for you?  Did I mention process yet?  Did I mention planning for the future?

Okay, you want your technology and employees to sell more cars, but how do you want them to do it? There are some very simple questions you need to think through. How do you want a sales agent to bring a deal to a manager? At what point does a vehicle going through reconditioning get too old in the reconditioning process?  Have you addressed these basic things, and if so, how do you implement your wants into your CRM?

Here are few best practice “Expectations” to move your CRM effort to the next level:

  1. All customers logged into CRM and no deals started without a worksheet printed from the system.
  2. Managers will take turns reviewing CRM challenges and re-training the staff during each weekly sales meeting for at least 90 days. This practice will help advance the aptitude and overall adoption of the system)
  3. All salespeople are required to touch the manager’s desk at the end of each shift to ensure that at least 10 quality out bound opportunity calls are completed.
  4. All salespeople are required to ask for a preferred email address on each new customer. Any salesperson with an email penetration rate below 50% on Walk-In customers will be subject to immediate review.
  5. All Appointments listed in the CRM must be confirmed by a sales manager before 11:00a each day. (Is the customer actually coming and a second voice/face for the customer that is someone that can “Make the Decision”.)
  6. Any salesperson that fails to schedule at least two appointments per week from opportunity calls will be subject to an immediate manager review and phone technique critique.
  7. Salespeople caught moving opportunity calls for a customer out more than 21 days without cause in notes will be subject to the following:  a. First Offense (re-train) and b. Second Offense (verbal/written warning).

Question yourself.  Question your people.  Let your people question you.  Discover your expectations; put them in writing, post them in high traffic areas of your dealership, and then put them to work.

Conclusion

If you just skipped any of the 5 points, and just skimmed down to this conclusion, then you're short-changing yourself. I bet there is something for you in each point that can be immediately applied at your dealership.

CRM, like sales, is simply a numbers game. The more customers you talk to, and the more appointments you set, the more you will sell. However, the numbers are playing against us these days.  The Up Bus isn't rolling up anymore. So, is it time to strategically think about your process from soup to nuts and make your technologies work to your process expectations? Instead of just playing the numbers, set your staff up for quality too. But be careful not to overburden them further.

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Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

Jennifer,

My message is that you should send an after hours message. During dealership hours we should be responding to them so quickly that we don't need the auto responder.

The one I exampled above works well when using a good CRM tool. I want the customer thinking I am on top of my game and customer focused. So if your CRM is not going to be able to provide the right vehicle info, I would suggest not sending.

When I think the message is from a real person I am more apt to do a little more reading. When I know it's an auto responder I tend to not pay it much attention.

All I am trying to do above is paint a mental picture for the customer making them think I am one hard working car salesman.

I know people who will write an e-mail to their boss and then have it go out at like 5 in the morning to give the boss the impression they are up and working early in the morning. It's all about perception.

Nobody has to send that exact e-mail out, they can choose to do what they want. I am sharing with the community what what I've seen work. What have you got to lose? Try it!

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

I read this site because of the great new ideas from the authors and commenters. I think some of the best information and new ideas come from differences of opinion. Mr. Thibeau, you make some very great points, but Mr. Oliver brings up a good point.

It's a great article to start with and I think the use of the autoresponder has evolved and will continue to do so.

I do believe in an after-hours autoresponder if for no other reason than to acknowlege we've got the customer's request. Any time you do anything online, you get a confirmation email, so why should contacting a dealer be any different? I don't want a customer moving on to more and more dealers just because they think I'm not getting back to them.

If we remove any emotional/ethical quandaries from the discussion, I still question beginning with a lie for practical reasons. I happen to be one of those people who gets caught every time. With my luck, at some point, I'd wind up in a discussion with a customer about my previous night's activities where I couldn't possibly have been checking my email or something. I just wouldn't want to have to worry about keeping up with a lie.

Wouldn't it be just as effective without that part? It implies that you're checking your email but doesn't assert it unecessarily. Besides, I think in my CRM tool it would likely come out as:

john,

I just happened to be checking my e-mail and I noticed your request for information on the HENWAY 3.5R XLR 401K EDITION MODEL CODE AA75R.

:)

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

If you don't care for that type of approach then maybe you should have kept this comment to yourself: "So your first response to the customer is a lie? Always looking for ways to improve but dont need that kind of advice."

Here's a few questions for you to ponder Mr. Oliver:

1. Customer inquires about a vehicle that you know has had a rough history, probably not a car you would buy for yourself. Would you tell the customer "A" they shouldn't buy the car, or would you tell them "B" "oh it's a nice one, you should come down and look at it?"

2. You present an offer to a customer that you know is a huge gross for the dealership. The customer ponders the offer and inquires if you can do any better, do you reply with: "A" "Yes we're making too much money off you, let me go grind my manager some more?" Or do you tell them: "B" "No, that's a really good deal you're getting, would you like to take delivery today or tomorrow?"

If you answered "B" then how is that any different than what I am suggesting in my e-mail. Based on your first comment, you're an "A" man.

I'd love to explain the theories of capitalism to you, but I have better things to do with my time this evening.

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

Jerry, you are spot on when you blogged “I personally believe it’s every person’s responsibility in the dealership to make sure internet leads are handled in a timely fashion.”

Today consumers drive the car buying process because the internet empowers car buyers to expect instant information at their fingertips. They demand comprehensive, detailed vehicle information that directly addresses the questions they posed. And they want that quote right away—15 minutes, tops.

Catherine Edwards,
ResponseLogix Marketing Director

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

John,

You didn't lose anything! I will tell you that you have a good process and I liked the templates you all use.

I am building the mystery shop website right now and will have it finished in about 20 minutes. I'll need your e-mail so I can send you the secure log-in info. [email protected]

And if anyone else would like to be mystery shopped, I'll be doing some more next week for free. Just join us in this thread: http://forum.dealerrefresh.com/f5/mystery-shop-time-581.html

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

Hi Jerry -- thanks for the effort. I put my money where my mouth was, and lost my money! :)

We are a BDC -- dedicated team of responders -- and I agree -- if we can't do better, then we need to nix the responder.

When it rains, it pours. The gal you spoke with actually put you on hold because the school was calling her back to tell her that she does indeed need to pick-up her little boy and take him to the ER for x-rays on his (apparently) busted arm. But we are a NO-EXCUSE organization. Why this lead wasn't handled by the morning shift before Gina arrived at 11:30 is a serious issue.

Again, thank you for your efforts!

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

That's not a chink in the armor is it John? Just kidding! Actually I did already mystery shop you and will be putting the data together after lunch.

Let's get back to the auto responder. I saw yours and it was one of the better ones I've seen. My only question; if in the auto responder you make a statement saying you're going to call in a few minutes, what happens if the person does not call in a few minutes? This could potentially happen if somebody was out sick with the swine flu or perhaps they were just busy with something else. So in my opinion I would not want to send that auto responder out unless I was absolutely certain I could make that phone call. For a dealer using an Internet BDC, that would be easier to accomplish, but for a dealership using sales people off the showroom floor, you're opening yourself up for some disappointed customers when you don't call them as per the expectation.

If the dedicated BDC department is handling the lead right as it comes in, why not just manually send that e-mail. This way you're assured the person sending it will in fact follow-up with the customer. I did get one of these auto responders from your Toyota BDC rep, but no phone call has arrived and it's been an hour.

Please don't go alert your BDC, let's see what transpires. I am going to give it another hour before I start compiling the mystery shop report. As I finished writing this she just called.

It’s good that she called, but her original e-mail said a few minutes. Hopefully you can now understand where I am coming from with my comments in the original article.

As always, I welcome your feedback.

Those Pesky Little Auto Responders

No preference, Jerry. Always looking to learn new things, and I don't pretend to have all the answers. I would ask that after the shop you reveal yourself, as our follow-up process is lengthy (so we can invalidate the lead). I would probably prefer to keep our actual responses private -- I don't want to make it too easy for others to copy our stuff :)

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