Cash For Clunkers- I have been paid club!

[Brian Tucker]

Sorry, the late nights have been getting to me. You are correct politics should not be discussed.

 

[CA CARS]

Has anyone been paid who used Autocheck for prior registration? If anyone has been paid at all...

Number of submissions since August 3----54. Rejections 0. Paid 0.

What are you using for prior registrations?

Are you sending the PDF's individually, or as 1 big PDF?

It would be nice to know if we're doing it right or wrong...

 

[kleigh]

Good morning,
We have 599 in and 5 paid to date(8/13), 10 rejections that have been resubmitted.
The rejections where on the early deals (July 25-27) and are simple to fix, mainly that our signed buyers order got cut off in the scanner, making the signature hard to read. Insurance Proof is critical, let them know if you have multible pages of proof because we found that the stop looking if the see the wrong dates on page one. scan oldest proof first and label the pages 1 of 3, 2 of 3 etc
NADA meeting last week, the NHSTA, rep said that they prefer single black and white PDF
Nothing paid or rejected newer than 7/28 so they are now 16 day's behind (according to autonews.com only 300 people at CITI are working on the invoices)
We stopped using Autocheck for prior, and make the customer go to the DMV it costs $10 for a printout of REG and $10 for a printout of Title.
We have found suspensions on these printouts, which do not show up on Autocheck.
If you have to call CARS.gov, i find that 8:01 am is the best, you get right through. hit 1 the minute she starts talking then 2 and then follow the menu.
We built a little online tracking ap that all our stores can update, and allows the wholesale, auction team to post the Disposal forms, which by law must be emailed to Cars.gov no later than 7 days after delivery.
If you have any other questions, let me know
Kevin Leigh
Director of e-Business
West Herr Auto Group
[email protected], Welcome to West Herr New York, NY State's Largest Vehicle Retailer

 

[AndrewDiFeo]

Kevin, great post and thanks for the information.

On the disposal forms, is that 7 days after submitted the invoice or 7 days after approval? If it was 7 days after submitting the invoice, it would contradict the new amendment to the rule about not having to disable the engine until approved for payment.

 

[kleigh]

Andrew,
this is the line from the code:

§ 599.403 Requirements and limitations for dealers.​

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A dealer receiving a Disposal Facility Certification Form or Salvage Auction
Certification Form under § 599.400(b)(2) or (c)(2) shall insert on the top of the form the
appropriate CARS invoice number, if known, and within 7 days of receipt, submit such​

certification form to NHTSA at [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][email protected][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman].
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[kleigh]

How uncool is this new REJECT message, its like CARS is not trying to be helpful at all.

0999 - Multiple Errors Found *** Recheck entire transaction

What the heck does that mean? we got 5 of these last night.

Kevin, West Herr

 

[kleigh]

This is good news,
NHTSA also noted that they are adding to their contractor submission review team, having started originally with 325 individuals, and increasing to a total of 1325 by next week. They will post on the Cars.gov website the top reasons for rejections along with commentary sometime in the near future.
NHTSA also stated that they are in the process of correcting the fact that dealers are receiving ACH deposits that do not have a corresponding invoice number attached for reconciliation purposes.
(excerpt from the NFADA update)

 

[kleigh]

we started getting rejects for registration not one year. I thought this might help you:

[FONT=&quot]Excerpt from page 37 of CARS rule:
allowing missing registration date, so long as title is verified.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
(iii) Registration[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The requirement that the trade-in vehicle be registered to the same owner for a[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]continuous period of one year prior to the transaction requires clarification. The agency[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]interprets this provision as requiring the trade-in vehicle to be registered to and owned by[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the person purchasing or leasing the new vehicle under the program. In a transaction[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]involving more than one person, the trade-in vehicle must have been registered to and[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]owned by at least one of the persons purchasing or leasing the vehicle under the program.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]To qualify under this requirement, the purchaser will need to provide proof of[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]registration covering the trade-in vehicle for a period of at least one year prior to the date[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]of the trade-in. The agency recognizes that this proof of registration presents[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]31[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]complications for purchasers. In several States, registration cards or documents do not[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]indicate a period of coverage of more than one year. In some of these States, purchasers[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]have a difficult time obtaining prior registration information from the State. Seeking a[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]less burdensome alternative, the agency evaluated the capabilities of commercial vehicle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]information services, such as Polk and Experian, to determine the type of vehicle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]information that is readily available to consumers. The agency discovered that[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]purchasers may obtain a history of vehicle registration information from these services.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]To implement this process, the agency has determined that proof of registration[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]may be demonstrated by any of the following: a current State registration document or[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]series of registration documents in the name of the purchaser evidencing registration for a[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]period of not less than one year immediately prior to the trade-in; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]a current State[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]registration document showing registration in the name of the purchaser and a document of title that confers title on the purchaser not less than one year immediately prior to the trade-in; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]or a current State registration document showing registration in the name of the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]purchaser and a document from a commercially available vehicle history provider[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]evidencing registration for a period of not less than one year immediately prior to the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]trade-in. Changes in ownership during this period to delete a co-owner due to death or[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]divorce do not interrupt the continuity of the registration, so long as the purchaser has[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]been shown as an owner on the registration for the entire period. In addition, for each of[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the three options, the consumer must certify that the trade-in vehicle was continuously[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]registered for the requisite period. This proof of registration, along with the consumer[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]certification, must be submitted by the dealer in its application to the agency requesting[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]32[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]reimbursement. Section 599.300(b)(3) and Appendix A, certifications section,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]implements these requirements.[/FONT]

 

[Brian Tucker]

finally got approved for payment on one! Still don't understand why this made it but others didn't. I was using a stamp on the title and they kept sending reject code for not "written" on the title but this one was the same way and they approved it but I won't complain. Guess I need to start checking for a deposit now? Has anyone else noticed they making it easier to get approved?

 

[CA CARS]

What was the invoice date on the one you got paid on? We have invoices going back to August 3 that are still "under review" Also did everyone see the survey that was sent out by the NHTSA yesterday? It was a survey of how many clunker deals dealers had done and how many they had been paid on. Finally what a great idea to see how much money has been spent! I don't know where any of the money has gone because from this site it appears that from the east coast to the west nobody is getting paid!