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Hypocrisy continues to get better and better and better. Hybrids proved nobody cares about the environment. Forgot to mention that big ass battery filled with crap that sits in a landfill. No worries!

So, let's mine some toxic stuff from the earth with slaves and make a whole new green technology :dance2:

And no worries on the big ass battery disposal again :hidepc:

I don't have the answer to what is better than gas… aside from diesel… but you can see that sooty "pollution" so it must be really bad :rolleyes:

What I do know is that I will continue to look the other way when a celebrity promotes an EV as environmentally friendly and consider buying one when more REAL car dealer sells them and they can go more than 500 miles on a charge.

While my bullet-proofed and deleted 6.0 F350 with 700+lbfttq is ready to let me get my redneck jollies. I might even put a shotgun in the rack and hang some truck nuts.
Alex, I hear your point. The crudeness wasn't necessary to make it.
 
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Alex, I hear your point. The crudeness wasn't necessary to make it.

When it comes to political hot potatoes it is.

Our society wishes mankind to evolve far beyond what evolution will allow. We are forced to be politically correct to go along when we are actually emotional beings at our core. We disagree on things, but if society has a different "popular" perspective our voice is not allowed to be heard. Because we are still emotional beings at our core, the popular perspective is usually free to grow without reason; saturated in emotion.

I punch through with crudeness. My aim is to bring reason back into the conversation, or maybe just my emotional take.

This is DealerRefresh. It is full of car dealers. Electric Vehicles, to date, have translated into one word for dealers: Tesla. This is a company who has been spitting on car dealers by trying to break down the franchise laws that allow car dealers to exist. If they were to be successful DealerRefresh would also cease to exist. This is topic that is deeply rooted in emotion for people who participate on this website.

Whitney, I'm not holding you at fault for the topic. And I do like the kind of driving thrills EVs provide. I'll probably own one when OEMs like Mercedes, Porsche, Ford, BMW, etc are selling them through their dealer networks. The point of my crude post was to point out how silly society is about these things and bring the reason back about what is truly being done to manufacture them.
 
Alex, I hear your point. The crudeness wasn't necessary to make it.

When it comes to political hot potatoes it is.

Our society wishes mankind to evolve far beyond what evolution will allow. We are forced to be politically correct to go along when we are actually emotional beings at our core. We disagree on things, but if society has a different "popular" perspective our voice is not allowed to be heard. Because we are still emotional beings at our core, the popular perspective is usually free to grow without reason; saturated in emotion.

I punch through with crudeness. My aim is to bring reason back into the conversation, or maybe just my emotional take.

This is DealerRefresh. It is full of car dealers. Electric Vehicles, to date, have translated into one word for dealers: Tesla. This is a company who has been spitting on car dealers by trying to break down the franchise laws that allow car dealers to exist. If they were to be successful DealerRefresh would also cease to exist. This is topic that is deeply rooted in emotion for people who participate on this website.

Whitney, I'm not holding you at fault for the topic. And I do like the kind of driving thrills EVs provide. I'll probably own one when OEMs like Mercedes, Porsche, Ford, BMW, etc are selling them through their dealer networks. The point of my crude post was to point out how silly society is about these things and bring the reason back about what is truly being done to manufacture them.
 
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So many EV stuff coming into my desk

GM to introduce 23 new EVs by 2025.

Did you see the new Tesla interior?
  1. The new steering wheel is more like a video game.
  2. Look at all the new interior shots, THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME INTERIOR (save $ and ordering complexity is gone).
  3. Elon looks at manufacturing like it's a science project. He will manuf'er 1million units per yr out of the CA factory alone.
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So many EV stuff coming into my desk

GM to introduce 23 new EVs by 2025.

Did you see the new Tesla interior?
  1. The new steering wheel is more like a video game.
  2. Look at all the new interior shots, THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME INTERIOR (save $ and ordering complexity is gone).
  3. Elon looks at manufacturing like it's a science project. He will manuf'er 1million units per yr out of the CA factory alone.
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The thread debates whether consumers genuinely want EVs, with the central insight being that many customers don't realize they want an electric vehicle until a dealer proactively introduces the option — for example, pointing out that an electric Mercedes EQB can match a GLB lease payment. Participants note EVs sit longer on lots partly because manufacturers still market and profit more from ICE models, leaving buyers unaware of comparable EV alternatives. The overall tone is cautiously optimistic, framing EV adoption as an education and awareness challenge as much as a demand problem.

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